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But a lot (possibly a majority) of Muslims insist that the Quran can only be read in Arabic, that there's no point reading a translation.
December 7, 2020 at 5:45 am
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Also the bible is 1200 pages, the Quran is only 600.
December 7, 2020 at 5:42 am
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A translation would be handy indeed, but a translation is something different than what FM is suggesting
December 7, 2020 at 5:41 am
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Easier than Arabic, because you wouldn't have to learn a new alphabet.
December 7, 2020 at 5:40 am
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But if that's the standard you're going to use, you should read the Ulster Cycle in the original. The surviving manuscripts total only about 400 pages. All you'd have to do is learn to read Irish. Easy peasy.
December 7, 2020 at 5:37 am
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Hebrew and Greek are hardly 'almost forgotten languages.'
December 7, 2020 at 5:36 am
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It's only 600 pages, only in Arabic with no forgotton languages. Thatis quite easy and simple to read
December 7, 2020 at 5:28 am
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While the bible is very complicated and long, the Quran is not. While the bible's original text is written in a complicated, almost forgotton language the Quran is not.
December 7, 2020 at 5:27 am
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Trust your own mind and do your own homework. If you copy the opinions of others you'll lose your own mind and turn into another copy.
December 7, 2020 at 5:25 am
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Also Southern Christians especially will simultaneously argue that the "word of God" is written for the simple man and not complicated AND that you have to study crap down to the root of the Greek word and know the entire context of every scenario of every command to understand it. It's beyond hilarious.
December 7, 2020 at 4:08 am
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And yet Islam has how many denominations? You know, where people interpret Quran in all sorts of ways. So don't put the blame on me.
December 7, 2020 at 4:06 am
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Understand the language and read. When I wanted to understand the world I studied English for example; I don't blame an English native speaker when I don't understand their message to me, I rather blame my ignorance and go learn more. You should do the same
December 7, 2020 at 3:00 am
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But I expect a lord to give you his message in a book. Your understanding of the message depends on your understanding of the message's language; it can't be simpler than this
December 7, 2020 at 2:54 am
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The thing that gets me about Christianity, Islam, etc. is the book they claim "has all the answers" has to be translated and interpreted by "scholars" and "experts" to verify its meaning. It's the Oracle At Delphi grift.
December 7, 2020 at 2:32 am
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Sure, I frequently side with Catholics, like that Mohammed is a false prophet.
December 6, 2020 at 1:28 pm
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But hey you get to be on the side of Catholics in this bit of the debate. Doesn't that make you proud?
December 6, 2020 at 1:46 am
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Brother of the Lord means brother of Jesus in this context. And he doesn't call Peter brother of the Lord. He calls James brother of the Lord. And there's nothing to suggest brother isn't being used here in the familial sense. It's ok to have a different interpretation but it needs to not be done out of pure fantasy.
December 6, 2020 at 1:44 am
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Why are you even asking me this since you consider yourself an expert on my posts so you should know better https://atheistforums.org/thread-58808-p...pid1900727
December 5, 2020 at 8:26 pm
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I didn't say anything about that. You do realize James, brother of Jesus is mentioned by Paul in one of the epistles, right? And you seem to have a skewed view of what exactly has been debunked, being misinformed by mythicist sources and all.
December 5, 2020 at 2:29 pm
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Really, you're referring to testimonium flavianum nr. 2? Hasn't that been debunked to death already?
December 5, 2020 at 9:06 am