(July 22, 2015 at 1:12 pm)omnomnom Wrote: I have had great gay friendships all my life

Oh, I'll bet you have. *insert UNF UNF UNF soundtrack*

(July 22, 2015 at 1:51 pm)omnomnom Wrote:

(July 22, 2015 at 1:44 pm)Faith No More Wrote: You reap what you sow, pal.

I never sowed hate, its your anti-theist grudge that's problem. I call out injustice when I see it. And forcing me to bake wedding cakes for what I believe is the wrong type of marriage is fucking injustice.

Believing any type of marriage between two people (of age, before you start going on some rant) who love each other is the wrong type of marriage, is what is unjust... I wonder how your "gay friends" feel about you believing their love is immoral.

(July 22, 2015 at 2:05 pm)QuarkDriven Wrote:

(July 22, 2015 at 1:51 pm)omnomnom Wrote: I never sowed hate, its your anti-theist grudge that's problem. I call out injustice when I see it. And forcing me to bake wedding cakes for what I believe is the wrong type of marriage is fucking injustice.

Believing any type of marriage between two people (of age, before you start going on some rant) who love each other, is what is unjust... I wonder how your "gay friends" feel about you believing their love is immoral.

I morally don't condone it but I treat them with ordinary respect.They disagree and don't like that (obviously) but they don't force me and say "Oh you MUST believe that we are moral". No, we guys are fine and even a couple came and we played some monopoly and stuff. I think the whole deal about eveyone's suspicion and dickery to me is really because people assume I'm one of those weird fundamentalist dudes who want to kill gays and treat them like slaves. I'm not so. Think of me and my view on gays this way:

"I don't condone polygamy. I won't bake a wedding cake for guy who is marrying 17 girls. You have no right to force me to bake the polygamy marriage cake and break my first amendment belief rights"

Get me clearer now?

(July 22, 2015 at 2:14 pm)omnomnom Wrote:

(July 22, 2015 at 2:05 pm)QuarkDriven Wrote: Believing any type of marriage between two people (of age, before you start going on some rant) who love each other, is what is unjust... I wonder how your "gay friends" feel about you believing their love is immoral.

I morally don't condone it but I treat them with ordinary respect.They disagree and don't like that (obviously) but they don't force me and say "Oh you MUST believe that we are moral". No, we guys are fine and even a couple came and we played some monopoly and stuff. I think the whole deal about eveyone's suspicion and dickery to me is really because people assume I'm one of those weird fundamentalist dudes who want to kill gays and treat them like slaves. I'm not so. Think of me and my view on gays this way:

"I don't condone polygamy. I won't bake a wedding cake for guy who is marrying 17 girls. You have no right to force me to bake the polygamy marriage cake and break my first amendment belief rights"

Get me clearer now?

You want the right to be an intolerant douche!
That's fine until you enter into a profession where you are legally obliged to be non-discriminatory.
Just bake the cake and take their money.

(July 22, 2015 at 1:59 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(July 22, 2015 at 1:55 pm)omnomnom Wrote: Thank you! Now tell those fcking judges not to force me a fine for not doing so.

I think you have grasped the wrong end of the stick.

People should still bake cakes for gay weddings if they are bakers, if you don't want to bake cakes for gay weddings don't become a baker.

Those prostitutes didn't want to screw you, but it was the profession they chose.

Whoa. I need a job so I can EAT from the cakes I sell. I can choose what profession I want and who I want. Those are basic human rights. I will bake cakes for people regardless of their sexual orientation race etc.. But NOT gay wedding cakes or Republican Party Cakes. I have a right to decline my services.

Would you sell a wedding cake to a consensual Bestiality couple?

If you don't like your mother views you have every right not to bake her a cake too. It's all about AMENMENT RIGHTS.

(July 22, 2015 at 2:21 pm)omnomnom Wrote:

(July 22, 2015 at 1:59 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I think you have grasped the wrong end of the stick.

People should still bake cakes for gay weddings if they are bakers, if you don't want to bake cakes for gay weddings don't become a baker.

Those prostitutes didn't want to screw you, but it was the profession they chose.

Whoa. I need a job so I can EAT from the cakes I sell. I can choose what profession I want and who I want. Those are basic human rights. I will bake cakes for people regardless of their sexual orientation race etc.. But NOT gay wedding cakes or Republican Party Cakes. I have a right to decline my services.

Would you sell a wedding cake to a consensual Bestiality couple?

If you don't like your mother views you have every right not to bake her a cake too. It's all about AMENMENT RIGHTS.

Your troll game remains weak. Keep it up, and we'll be in the negative zone.
The Negative Zone.
THE NEGATIVE ZONE.

(July 22, 2015 at 2:21 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(July 22, 2015 at 2:14 pm)omnomnom Wrote: I morally don't condone it but I treat them with ordinary respect.They disagree and don't like that (obviously) but they don't force me and say "Oh you MUST believe that we are moral". No, we guys are fine and even a couple came and we played some monopoly and stuff. I think the whole deal about eveyone's suspicion and dickery to me is really because people assume I'm one of those weird fundamentalist dudes who want to kill gays and treat them like slaves. I'm not so. Think of me and my view on gays this way:

"I don't condone polygamy. I won't bake a wedding cake for guy who is marrying 17 girls. You have no right to force me to bake the polygamy marriage cake and break my first amendment belief rights"

Get me clearer now?

You want the right to be an intolerant douche!
That's fine until you enter into a profession where you are legally obliged to be non-discriminatory.
Just bake the cake and take their money.

No, its MY amendment right to refuse and its refusal not based on Discrimination but on moral conviction. A gay person can order a birthday cake but I'm not making a wedding cake as I don't condone such marriage.

(July 22, 2015 at 2:14 pm)omnomnom Wrote:

(July 22, 2015 at 2:05 pm)QuarkDriven Wrote: Believing any type of marriage between two people (of age, before you start going on some rant) who love each other, is what is unjust... I wonder how your "gay friends" feel about you believing their love is immoral.

I morally don't condone it but I treat them with ordinary respect.They disagree and don't like that (obviously) but they don't force me and say "Oh you MUST believe that we are moral". No, we guys are fine and even a couple came and we played some monopoly and stuff. I think the whole deal about eveyone's suspicion and dickery to me is really because people assume I'm one of those weird fundamentalist dudes who want to kill gays and treat them like slaves. I'm not so. Think of me and my view on gays this way:

"I don't condone polygamy. I won't bake a wedding cake for guy who is marrying 17 girls. You have no right to force me to bake the polygamy marriage cake and break my first amendment belief rights"

Get me clearer now?

yeah, if you don't like someones way of life or agree with it, you'll deny them service.. cake or whatever...
Not cool

You're going to have a difficult life ahead of you

(July 22, 2015 at 2:24 pm)QuarkDriven Wrote:

(July 22, 2015 at 2:14 pm)omnomnom Wrote: I morally don't condone it but I treat them with ordinary respect.They disagree and don't like that (obviously) but they don't force me and say "Oh you MUST believe that we are moral". No, we guys are fine and even a couple came and we played some monopoly and stuff. I think the whole deal about eveyone's suspicion and dickery to me is really because people assume I'm one of those weird fundamentalist dudes who want to kill gays and treat them like slaves. I'm not so. Think of me and my view on gays this way:

"I don't condone polygamy. I won't bake a wedding cake for guy who is marrying 17 girls. You have no right to force me to bake the polygamy marriage cake and break my first amendment belief rights"

Get me clearer now?

yeah, if you don't like someones way of life or agree with it, you'll deny them service.. cake or whatever...
Not cool

You're going to have a difficult life ahead of you

Not any cake. WEDDING cake. There's a big difference.

But what if the bestiality couple is buying a wedding cake for their totally Christian hetero friends who are getting married? We need to sort out the red tape here, methinks.