(August 8, 2015 at 10:18 am)pool Wrote: I'm sorry,i meant "i don't know" as a response to whether i know what a god is or not.
Implying that i don't know whether i believe in a God or not.

As in,i don't even know what a God is to choose whether i believe in it or not.Is there a thing for that?
 

Look, it's very simple: if you believe in god and someone asks you if you believe in god - you say "Yes". Any other answer means you don't believe in god, therefore - you're an atheist.

(August 8, 2015 at 11:54 am)Nope Wrote:

(August 8, 2015 at 4:46 am)pool Wrote: I think God is like salt.
What is the taste of salt? Salty.

Anyway,i'm going to ask some of my Theistic friends about what they think God is.
I have a feeling that the definition of a God of an Atheist would very much vary from that of a Theist.

It makes sense that an atheist and theist might define god differently. A theist will  define god in the same manner which their particular religion does but they will discount other religions's definition. An atheist will  try to define god  as a  concept of many different cultures and ideas. The Hindu idea of god might differ from the Christian idea of god.

Your comparison of god to salt doesn't really work well. You can define salt and even write a chemical formula for it.

I found a definition of salt that most people will agree is a good one. It is harder to define 'god' because people use that word to describe many things.

Quote:any chemical compound formed from the reaction of an acid with a base, with all or part of the hydrogen of the acid replaced by a metal or other cation.

The problem with just defining god as salt, is that it doesn't explain the concept, its merely changing or adding on to an existing label of something. Why does salt get labeled as god and not sugar, what qualities does salt have that make it worthy of an additional label? If god can be defined as everything then the concept of god is useless because its existence is indistinguishable from its non existence, you have essentially defined it to the point of being undefinable.

I asked Google for a definition of God, and it responded with the following:

Quote:1. (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.

2. (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

Sound good, pool? Good.

I used salt because if someone asks what the taste of salt is the answer would be salty.

In my mind,the only definition of God is god itself.Seeing so many varying definitions of God,I'm not even sure anymore.

I don't know about others,but i don't think i am equipped to believe or not believe in something that has such a vague description.
I'm not trying to convert you or anything,it's just my personal opinion.


For example,

Quote:Wyrd of Gawd

(August 7, 2015 at 7:13 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: ?:  What is God?

A:  An exclamation of exasperation.  Can also stand in as an exclamation of sexual climax, though "Jesus" would be more  correct.

Moses was God.  Jesus was God.  Anyone can be God.   It's like being called "Mister".

To Wyrd of Gawd,i'd be a Theist because according to him a God can be anyone.

And according to someone else i might be an Atheist.

I think,the appropriate response to give when i'm asked whether i believe in a God or not is to ask back,"What is god?".Since everyone have different definitions of God,i'd be a Theist or an Atheist depending upon their beliefs,not mine.

I'm just curious as to whether there is a thing for people that do not know what a God is?

(August 8, 2015 at 2:20 pm)pool Wrote: I used salt because if someone asks what the taste of salt is the answer would be salty.

In my mind,the only definition of God is god itself.Seeing so many varying definitions of God,I'm not even sure anymore.

I don't know about others,but i don't think i am equipped to believe or not believe in something that has such a vague description.
I'm not trying to convert you or anything,it's just my personal opinion.


For example,

Quote:Wyrd of Gawd
Moses was God.  Jesus was God.  Anyone can be God.   It's like being called "Mister".

To Wyrd of Gawd,i'd be a Theist because according to him a God can be anyone.

And according to someone else i might be an Atheist.

I think,the appropriate response to give when i'm asked whether i believe in a God or not is to ask back,"What is god?".Since everyone have different definitions of God,i'd be a Theist or an Atheist depending upon their beliefs,not mine.

I'm just curious as to whether there is a thing for people that do not know what a God is?

Man you are just not grasping this! When you believe something that means you are convinced in your mind, If you are not convinced that means you don't believe, so "I don't know if I believe" means you are not convinced and therefore do not believe.

Pool, we've been through this. Unbelief is not an active stance, it is the default position. You either believe, or you don't. Since you don't comprehend what a god is, you don't believe in him; you are implicitly an atheist. End of story.

(August 9, 2015 at 12:30 am)Pizza Wrote:

Your signature,

Quote:The atheist does not say, "There is no God", but he says, "I know not what you mean by God; the word God is to me a sound conveying no clear or distinct affirmation." - Charles Bradlaugh

Cool,a similar thinker.

Remember when we say to some of the Theists that they are being absurd to not believe in The Theory Of Evolution,that they don't even understand it and are simply declining what they don't even understand? The advice given to them is to first try to understand what Evolution is.

When i come to think about it,i am indeed declining to believe in something i don't understand in the first place.So i try to understand what it is and it seems that i can't understand it either.I wonder what my course of action should be?

(August 8, 2015 at 1:42 pm)Nestor Wrote: I asked Google for a definition of God, and it responded with the following:

Quote:1. (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.

2. (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

Sound good, pool? Good.

And the definition of Atheist according to Google is, 

Quote:a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods

And a lot of atheists disagree with it.

(August 9, 2015 at 1:53 am)pool Wrote:

(August 8, 2015 at 1:42 pm)Nestor Wrote: I asked Google for a definition of God, and it responded with the following:


Sound good, pool? Good.

And the definition of Atheist according to Google is, 

Quote:a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods

And a lot of atheists disagree with it.

Um... they do?