(May 19, 2014 at 10:09 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: This seems to come up if you ever critize Islam. To me this is patently absurd and small minded as I can name at least three different races off the top of my head that are commonly Muslim ( East Indian, Persian, Arabian). So where does this idea of critizing Islam being racist even come from? Its like being called racist against Hispanic people because I criticized Catholicism. So where did this idea come from, let alone gain ground?

It comes from white guilt, and fear of being labled a racist. Ultimately when in a debate with a muslim the islamic arguement will tank, and the goto last word in just about any cultural arguement is 'racist.' So even if 'Islam' is not a race, over sensitive douche bags have allowed anyone using the 'R' word a wide birth and ultimatly the last word. Rather than call some (who may happen to be a shade or two lighter/darker than themselves) stupid for using the term Racist outside of it's intended use/defination. All because you fear a peer evaluation concerning your personal level of douche baggery/political correctness.

(this is what happens when you care what others think of you and let it determine who you are.) When truthfully Stupidity knows no race, wealth, creed, or religious boundries. Being labled stupid, and your idealolgy stupid for good olde fashion content is the great truth teller, equlaizer and dare I said right of all men!

So, Next time a muslim tell you are a racist for not agreeing with what ever religious thing he is trying to sell, tell him to "go pound sand!"

Because if you are not 'muslim' then you to all of them are a member of that 'great unworthy race' (Despite the color of your skin) you infidel!

Guys, don't you love it when Islam brings us closer together! I mean when else do us heathens and Christians speak out in one voice against the barbarity of Islam?
What I can't work out is whether Christianity grudgingly respects the opposition team more (for being brothers of the same game),
or the referee (who knows both of them are playing the same silly game).

(May 19, 2014 at 10:09 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: This seems to come up if you ever critize Islam.

No, it comes up whenever you make no distinction between Islam and Muslim. And the racist part, if point one is checked, is merely semantics. It's taking the semantic backdoor to weasel out of one's bigotry to say, they're not a race.

Racist may be the wrong word, but it certainly fits the underlying emotions.

(May 19, 2014 at 10:09 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: This seems to come up if you ever critize Islam. To me this is patently absurd and small minded as I can name at least three different races off the top of my head that are commonly Muslim ( East Indian, Persian, Arabian). So where does this idea of critizing Islam being racist even come from? Its like being called racist against Hispanic people because I criticized Catholicism. So where did this idea come from, let alone gain ground?

In england I think it comes from groups like the EDL, BNP and so on who are very often racist and who dislike pakistani muslims.
I can see how the idea would gain ground, its totally illogical but that's never stopped an idea from gaining ground before

Let me put it this way. The distinction lies in what is said and meant. To take a simplistic example. I could say, I can't stand biking on the sidewalk. But if I say, all cyclists are thugs and killers, always biking on the sidewalk, the whole argument is taken to a different level.

(November 2, 2015 at 6:08 am)abaris Wrote:

(May 19, 2014 at 10:09 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: This seems to come up if you ever critize Islam.

No, it comes up whenever you make no distinction between Islam and Muslim. And the racist part, if point one is checked, is merely semantics. It's taking the semantic backdoor to weasel out of one's bigotry to say, they're not a race.

Racist may be the wrong word, but it certainly fits the underlying emotions.

My underlying emotions around Islam are not but contempt and disgust. This is because of what the religion teaches.

Am I the only one that noticed this thread is over a year old?

Quote:It comes from white guilt, and fear of being labled a racist.

Then it is a self-inflicted wound, drippy. I don't give a flying fuck about islam, allah or their pedo-prophet.  Medieval horseshit run amok in the modern world.

Oh, and the same is true of your xtian and jew horseshit, too.

Fuck 'em all.  Ignorant shits.

See?  No guilt at all.

I'd say in some cases it is racist. Especially when it's layered with double standards. For example hating Sharia Law, and then claiming America is a Christian Nation and that our laws should be based on a 2000 year old book... might make you a racist.

Or when you (rightly) criticize their treatment of women, but also use it to dismiss any problems women in western culture have. (Makes you sexist and racist imo). "WHY GET WORKED UP OVER 11 CENTS WHEN IN THE MIDDLE EAST WOMEN ARE TREATED WORSE!" *stares, remembering the whining about Christian Persecution in America and remember Christian Persecution in the middle east) Same goes with Gay people. "Well at least we aren't the Muslims, who kill gay people! Never mind the guy in California who tried to petition to make killing gay people legal."

(November 2, 2015 at 5:28 pm)Cecelia Wrote: I'd say in some cases it is racist.

Didn't quote your whole post. I'm well aware of that. But I want to adress that particular part, since it's so important. First, let's drop the racist part and call it bigotry, in order for the weasels not finding the exit. It's bigotry whenever Islam or radical Islam is identified with muslim. There's a majority of muslims coming in all shades and colors, going about their daily business. Making blanket statements is either stupid or dishonest. It's always the radicals deserving of contempt. And in that I'm not discriminatory. I dislike them equally, regardless if they're christian, jewish or muslim.