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The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
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RE: The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
Is there any sort of doctrine connected to these meteorological events? Or strictly academic?
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RE: The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
There might have been a big cosmological event in the past that made it's way in some of the major religions today, but that certainly is not what started religion. Religion is born out of ignorance and the need for us to feel in control of things. Superstition is a common occurrence in the animal kingdom as demonstrated in the pigeon experiment, that combined with human intellect was bound to lead to religion, irrespective of a big cosmological event.

Religion spreads by adapting and exploiting gaps of knowledge, and it is a common occurrence for one religion to *borrow* ideas from other religions, so given enough time it's not hard to see how the major religions might share different versions of a common story, that however doesn't do much towards adding credibility to the actual event. Nor will knowing that prevent new religions from popping up in the future.
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(November 22, 2015 at 2:02 am)dyresand Wrote: This isn't science  Angry

Sure it is !  For one, religion IS the beginning of science.  There is Comparative Mythology and Religion, Astronomy, Archeoastronomy, Geology, Astrophysics (especially cosmology), and Celestial Mechanics.  And some others...
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(November 23, 2015 at 2:02 pm)Bard A Madsen Wrote: Sure it is !  For one, religion IS the beginning of science.  There is Comparative Mythology and Religion, Astronomy, Archeoastronomy, Geology, Astrophysics (especially cosmology), and Celestial Mechanics.  And some others...

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There is a special class of idiots who insist that the Comet of 1811 hit the earth and caused the New Madrid earthquake in 1812.

http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/1811.htm


This in spite of the fact that the comet was observed both approaching and leaving the inner solar system.  True fanatics are never dissuaded by facts.
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(November 22, 2015 at 4:48 am)ignoramus Wrote: Is there any sort of doctrine connected to these meteorological events? Or strictly academic?
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I don't understand, not many understand the myths or the doctrine, and I try to keep it academic.  Here are some examples, I have over 100K words of it and have been a bit distracted.

During the period of the French Revolution Charles-Francois Dupuis, in three bulky volumes “On the Origin of all Forms of Worship” (1794), Developed the Idea that the Primary Source of Religion was the Spectacle of Celestial Phenomena and the Ascertainment of their Correspondence with Earthly Events, and he undertook to show that the Myths of all peoples and all times were nothing but a set of Astronomical Combinations. According to him, the Egyptians, to whom he assigned the foremost place among “the Inventors of Religions,” had conceived, some Twelve or Fifteen Thousand Years Before Our Era, the division of the Ecliptic into Twelve Constellations corresponding to the Twelve months.

It is said of Solon the Greek law-giver, that when he visited Egypt, six hundred years before Christ, he had a talk with the priest of Sais about the Deluge of Deucalion. The following is Plato’s account : “Thereupon, one of the priests, who was of very great age, said, ‘O Solon, Solon, you Hellene.’ Solon, hearing this, said, ‘What do you mean?’ ‘I mean to say,’ he replied, ‘that in mind you are all young ; there is no old opinion handed down among you by ancient Tradition, nor any Science which is Hoary with Age. And I will tell you the reason of this : there have been, and There Will Be Again, many Destructions of Mankind arising out of many causes. There is a story which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Phaeton, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father’s chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the Earth and was himself destroyed by a Thunderbolt. Now, this has the form of a Myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving around the Earth and in the Heavens, and a Great Conflagration of things upon the Earth recurring at long intervals of time.” “Dialogues,” XI, 517, Timaeus.

Ishtar was originally good, personified, she was known as ‘the Mother,’ for the reason that she seemed to give birth to All the Sky Phenomena. She was also known as the Brilliant Goddess, and as the Mistress of the Mountains. Afterwards she became Violent, and the Verdant Earth under her greenhouse roof trembled. Thus she lost her good character, and the Assyrians, seeing her Transformation, henceforth considered her the Goddess of Battle and war. Her character is like that of the good Cherub of Ezekiel, who afterwards became a menace and terror. Thou art the anointed Cherub that Covereth ; and I have set thee so : thou wast upon the Holy Mountain of God ; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the Stones of Fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast Created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with Violence, and thou hast sinned : therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the Mountain of God : and I will destroy thee, O covering Cherub, from the midst of the Stones of Fire.   Ezekiel 28 : 14-16


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(November 23, 2015 at 2:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote: There is a special class of idiots who insist that the Comet of 1811 hit the earth and caused the New Madrid earthquake in 1812.

http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/1811.htm


This in spite of the fact that the comet was observed both approaching and leaving the inner solar system.  True fanatics are never dissuaded by facts.

Yep, same with any conspiracy. I ran into "The Miracle Of The Sun" crap  a year or two back. People believe all sorts of crap. JFK, faked moon landing, 9/11 and the biggest and most needlessly self inflicted conspiracy humans have inflicted on themselves, the horrible idea of a "chosen people".
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JFK never actually died. It was a fake fourth sniper on the moon.
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(November 22, 2015 at 6:26 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: There might have been a big cosmological event in the past that made it's way in some of the major religions today, but that certainly is not what started religion. Religion is born out of ignorance and the need for us to feel in control of things. Superstition is a common occurrence in the animal kingdom as demonstrated in the pigeon experiment, that combined with human intellect was bound to lead to religion, irrespective of a big cosmological event.

Religion spreads by adapting and exploiting gaps of knowledge, and it is a common occurrence for one religion to *borrow*  ideas from other religions, so given enough time it's not hard to see how the major religions might share different versions of a common story, that however doesn't do much towards adding credibility to the actual event. Nor will knowing that prevent new religions from popping up in the future.

That is why I am here, trying to say that religion was started by celestial phenomena and its subsequent impact on Man and Earth.  It is clear if one reads enough of the very ancient prayers, they are begging the Sky God to stop killing them.  Superstition of animals?  What pigeon experiment?  This has got to be good !  I think your saying it was just all made up, is that right?  If religious thought was all just spread from a common source then there is going to be a lot of explaining to be done such as the intercourse of all the cultures of the globe and yet their stories are distinct from each other in the methodology and yet their content the same more or less.
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(November 23, 2015 at 2:31 pm)robvalue Wrote: JFK never actually died. It was a fake fourth sniper on the moon.

Thus proving once and for all that we really did put a man on the moon.

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