I wear work boots everyday because I do not want distract women with my amazing ankles.

(January 16, 2016 at 5:47 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:

(January 16, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Heat Wrote: Also would you be fine with men who wear skin tight pants, specially designed to give the exact outline of their penis, yet then go claim it's specifically and solely for comfort?
It's the exact same thing.

I would not be attracted to him. My hormones might respond as hormones will do, but my mind and my heart would not want to be near him, much less be seen with him.

Who am I to speak?  I don't need to wear skimpy clothes. Skimpy clothes are for women who lack confidence. Female beauty is for men who appreciate it and that's not every bloke I pass by on the street.

I call bullshit. This is what we are raised to believe. If we dress in a certain way it means we have certain negative qualities. It's a load of shit.

Can we just let people dress however they want to dress without making character judgements on them? Why is that so hard.

(January 16, 2016 at 6:33 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:

(January 16, 2016 at 6:44 am)pool the great Wrote: I don't think women shouldn't be restricted to wear what they find comfortable.
I however advocate strongly for pants for men that are extremely revealing of their penis. So that it makes it perfectly clear when a man has a boner, pants that are capable of outlining the exact shape and size of a man's penis, without actually revealing the penis. I also want campaigns for supporting this trend and I want society to applaud and praise men that follow this trend and shame whoever that are against this trend among men.

Is that too much to ask?

Well you can wear some pants like that if you want, but you know why most men do not wear pants like that? Because they are generally not appealing  nor would they be comfortable for your package, especially if you pop a boner. Its not like men are covering up their super sexiness in the name of modesty.

I would be distracted. But not in the way pool thinks. Lol

(January 16, 2016 at 7:09 pm)Losty Wrote:

(January 16, 2016 at 6:33 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Well you can wear some pants like that if you want, but you know why most men do not wear pants like that? Because they are generally not appealing  nor would they be comfortable for your package, especially if you pop a boner. Its not like men are covering up their super sexiness in the name of modesty.

I would be distracted. But not in the way pool thinks. Lol

Ya, you would probably be starring, thinking "WTF is that guy wearing?".

In my opinion, it has nothing to do with confidence or lack of it. It has everything to do with other virtuous qualities that people want to do away with.

May the balance/order/light/reason/purity prevail over the darkness/ignorance/uncleanness/foolishness/chaos/corruption in all societies till it becomes dominant and victorious.

(January 16, 2016 at 7:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: In my opinion, it has nothing to do with confidence or lack of it. It has everything to do with other virtuous qualities that people want to do away with.

May the balance/order/light/reason/purity prevail over the darkness/ignorance/uncleanness/foolishness/chaos/corruption in all societies till it becomes dominant and victorious.

Are you sure you're up for this MK?  We're discussing how a woman's curvaceous body looks under yoga pants.  Or is your being up the reason you're here?  (Pro tip: no unsolicited dick pictures.)

(January 16, 2016 at 7:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: In my opinion, it has nothing to do with confidence or lack of it. It has everything to do with other virtuous qualities that people want to do away with.

May the balance/order/light/reason/purity prevail over the darkness/ignorance/uncleanness/foolishness/chaos/corruption in all societies till it becomes dominant and victorious.

As I stated a few pages back, I wear what I'm comfortable in and what the situation demands, not to attract the attention of men.

Now ask yourself WHY the various religions demand 'modesty' of women while not applting the same rule to men? Is it, perhaps, that those religions were created and run by "men"?

(January 16, 2016 at 7:07 pm)Losty Wrote:

(January 16, 2016 at 5:47 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I would not be attracted to him. My hormones might respond as hormones will do, but my mind and my heart would not want to be near him, much less be seen with him.

Who am I to speak?  I don't need to wear skimpy clothes. Skimpy clothes are for women who lack confidence. Female beauty is for men who appreciate it and that's not every bloke I pass by on the street.

I call bullshit. This is what we are raised to believe. If we dress in a certain way it means we have certain negative qualities. It's a load of shit.

Can we just let people dress however they want to dress without making character judgements on them? Why is that so hard.

Theoretically speaking, I agree, Losty,
however I certainly understand what Rhonda is saying, too.

For example, there have been times that people have judged me simply as a lazy slob for not looking my best.
So you would be right about that, Losty,
because they were wrong about me being a slob....
...what I was, was massively depressed.

However, Rhonda could also be argued to be right, in a scenario like that:
But the negative quality that she would assess might not be "lazy slob",
but rather "someone with no self-respect".

And while that might be cruel-sounding,
it would still be correct;
because at that point, I had no self-worth.

I think people should have the freedom to dress as they please
without risk of harassment;

and I think it's great to encourage people to recognize the difference
between PASSING JUDGMENT vs. EXERCISING JUDGMENT;

but it kind of comes back to the discussion about rape, and blaming the victim:

We don't tell young women to be street-smart and be safe
because it would be "their fault" if they made a bad choice and got raped...

...but rather, we encourage them to be safe
because we just want to lower their odds of being raped, at all.

Because no matter how much punishment is meted-out to the rapist,
you are, at that point, still a rape victim.

You can't un-ring a bell.

Rape is part of your life story at that point,
and that's all we're trying to prevent.

It's not about blaming the victim...it's about preventing you from becoming a victim, in the first place.

In the same way,
If you dress a certain way,
and people pass judgment on you,
then that makes THEM the judgmental assholes...
....it doesn't make YOU whatever label it was that they were prepared to apply to you.

However, that said,
it is a little self-contradictory
to insist on having the freedom to use your clothing to express yourself...

...and then getting upset because someone misinterpreted your message.

People shouldn't ascribe negative qualities to you, based on superficial things, true...

...but on the other hand, you can't blame other people for failing to understand you,
simply because you misrepresented yourself, either.

It's why we dress professionally going to a job interview.

(January 16, 2016 at 7:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: In my opinion, it has nothing to do with confidence or lack of it. It has everything to do with other virtuous qualities that people want to do away with.

May the balance/order/light/reason/purity prevail over the darkness/ignorance/uncleanness/foolishness/chaos/corruption in all societies till it becomes dominant and victorious.

What is wrong with women's bodies? I personally see women's bodies as everything that is right and good in this world.