(January 17, 2016 at 12:47 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 12:37 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Huh, I thought we were agreed: leering is good, just don't jizz on her while panting like a dog.  Looks like the goal posts have been moved.  

Certainly a guy is "allowed" to stare at whomever he wants. But that doesn't mean it isn't rude or creepy, or something that he should try to avoid.

Damn.  You're shoulding all over me.  (Keep that poop in the bathroom.)

(January 17, 2016 at 12:50 am)Beccs Wrote: I was just making a response to a member making an example calling the woman in tha example a bitch repeatedly.

What a dick.

(January 17, 2016 at 1:28 am)Whateverist the White Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 12:50 am)Beccs Wrote: I was just making a response to a member making an example calling the woman in tha example a bitch repeatedly.

What a dick.

A massive one.

(January 17, 2016 at 1:19 am)Irrational Wrote: And what if she didn't want you to stare for long at her boobs? Would you still be respecting her? Try to be considerate of how other fellow human beings may feel in these situations. Perhaps the girl or woman didn't mean to tease you with her boobs. It's not impossible for boobs to bounce up and down unintentionally.

Anyway, depends on the context really. If it's clear she's flirting with you, and she's bold about it, that's fine, I guess.

Hey if those sweater puppies pop into my field of view they're getting scanned. End of story. That's just the way the booby bounces. Oh, and please, feel free to breast feed in public. (I love that.)

And yes I at least think I'm funny.

(January 17, 2016 at 1:25 am)Heat Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 12:48 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: No one is saying a man isn't allowed to be sexually attracted to a pretty girl. Just don't be a creep by staring and being disrespectful.

It's all relative, CL. That's the point I was trying to make earlier. It's relative to what a girl is wearing, which might sound creepy but it's the honest truth.

If you see a man wearing a speedo out in public, are you going to immediately scold yourself and think it disrespectful to stare? 

Actually, yeah. 

I was born in a big city where I spent the first 7 years of my life. As a little kid we'd walk everywhere... to the store, to the park, to the beach... we didn't have a car and you could get anywhere you needed to on foot.  

My mom taught me from very early on not to stare at the homeless folks laying in the streets, or the disabled people who walked (or rolled) by, or any other type of person who just happened to stand out for whatever reason. It's just common human decency. It doesn't matter if it's a hot guy in a speedo or a mentally handy capped person acting strangely. Staring is rude.

(January 17, 2016 at 1:25 am)Heat Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 12:48 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: No one is saying a man isn't allowed to be sexually attracted to a pretty girl. Just don't be a creep by staring and being disrespectful.

It's all relative, CL. That's the point I was trying to make earlier. It's relative to what a girl is wearing, which might sound creepy but it's the honest truth.

If you see a man wearing a speedo out in public, are you going to immediately scold yourself and think it disrespectful to stare? No, because you expect them to know that by wearing that, they are going to be stared at. Obviously you don't have to intensely stare, but looking longer than normal clearly, you will most likely do. That could be because you are attracted, or questioning why someone would wear so little regardless it is the exact same concept. That the less you wear, the more you expect the other person to expect people to be staring. That was my whole point. Women are developing this mindset in modern society, that if they wear much less than average clothing amount, they are to be looked at the same exact way as if they weren't, and anyone who they deem treating them like someone wearing hardly any clothes, is the one being disrespectful, and suddenly they turn into the victim. It's this switching the blame. There is no definitive line of what's minimal to wear and what's not. However, the fact that a large majority of women that do wear what would objectively be considered "Skimpy", without a good reason other than personal preference, are getting mad at people who stare at them is a social misunderstanding that women's right's suddenly turn in to women's expectations, that no matter how they dress it's to be treated and respected. If you can't respect yourself enough to admit what you're wearing is for the goal of appearing more attractive, I can't respect you enough to think that i'm the one who should be blamed for doing what you wanted me to do in specific.

Wait so if a woman wears something that makes her feel sexy, she has to be ok with any guy gawking at her for as long as he wants?

Yeah, no shit Sherlock, of course staring is rude.
We are talking about women's clothes and how it is supposedly objectifying a women for looking at her when she dress sexy.

(January 17, 2016 at 1:39 am)pool the great Wrote: Yeah, no shit Sherlock, of course staring is rude.
We are talking about women's clothes and how it is supposedly objectifying a women for looking at her when she dress sexy.

Well, it kinda is. Women don't always dress "sexy" to impress guys.

(January 17, 2016 at 1:37 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 1:25 am)Heat Wrote: It's all relative, CL. That's the point I was trying to make earlier. It's relative to what a girl is wearing, which might sound creepy but it's the honest truth.

If you see a man wearing a speedo out in public, are you going to immediately scold yourself and think it disrespectful to stare? No, because you expect them to know that by wearing that, they are going to be stared at. Obviously you don't have to intensely stare, but looking longer than normal clearly, you will most likely do. That could be because you are attracted, or questioning why someone would wear so little regardless it is the exact same concept. That the less you wear, the more you expect the other person to expect people to be staring. That was my whole point. Women are developing this mindset in modern society, that if they wear much less than average clothing amount, they are to be looked at the same exact way as if they weren't, and anyone who they deem treating them like someone wearing hardly any clothes, is the one being disrespectful, and suddenly they turn into the victim. It's this switching the blame. There is no definitive line of what's minimal to wear and what's not. However, the fact that a large majority of women that do wear what would objectively be considered "Skimpy", without a good reason other than personal preference, are getting mad at people who stare at them is a social misunderstanding that women's right's suddenly turn in to women's expectations, that no matter how they dress it's to be treated and respected. If you can't respect yourself enough to admit what you're wearing is for the goal of appearing more attractive, I can't respect you enough to think that i'm the one who should be blamed for doing what you wanted me to do in specific.

Wait so if a woman wears something that makes her feel sexy, she has to be ok with any guy gawking at her for as long as he wants?

What the fuck is a woman trying to look sexy for if not other people?

Her self? Pffft... what the fuuuuck??? LOL


"I'm trying really hard to feel attractive, and how dare you acknowledge that!!"