(January 17, 2016 at 2:19 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 2:15 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Oh come on wizard, don't tell me you don't look at a member of the sex of the your attracted to and go "that ass, its fucking amazing"
I'm going to give you a personal example of how this works. There is this girl in my class at school. She has a fucking amazing ass that and figure. I would love nothing more then to fuck the everloving shit out of her from behind. But j also acknowledge that she is a very competent and intelligent human, who is very kind and easy to get along with. She also has great organizational skills. Does that make me an evil sexist who views women as objects. Hardly. Just my mother was careful to teach me that women are more then just sex objects. In other words you can teach a straight man to see women as humans, but you can't teach him to not what to fuck women.

Of course I notice women, that's not what I am arguing about, what I'm arguing about is the fact that women who are being gawked at, should just have to accept it because they are sexy. They have every right to be offended by someone rudely starring at them.

No one's arguing about being naturally sexy, we're arguing about the specific action of purposely dressing sexy.

Dressing sexy is purposeful, something done for a reason.

(January 17, 2016 at 2:21 am)pool the great Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 2:19 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Of course I notice women, that's not what I am arguing about, what I'm arguing about is the fact that women who are being gawked at, should just have to accept it because they are sexy. They have every right to be offended by someone rudely starring at them.

I completely agree. No person have to just sit there and accept getting gawked at. But then again no one is arguing that women should just accept and sit there while they are gawked at..

Actually that is pretty much the argument that heat presented, he said if they wear something sexy than they should expect to be starred at.

(January 17, 2016 at 2:26 am)Heat Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 2:19 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Of course I notice women, that's not what I am arguing about, what I'm arguing about is the fact that women who are being gawked at, should just have to accept it because they are sexy. They have every right to be offended by someone rudely starring at them.

No one's arguing about being naturally sexy, we're arguing about the specific action of purposely dressing sexy.

Dressing sexy is purposeful, something done for a reason.

And some times its to look sexy, sometimes it just because its hot outside.

(January 17, 2016 at 2:26 am)Heat Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 2:19 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Of course I notice women, that's not what I am arguing about, what I'm arguing about is the fact that women who are being gawked at, should just have to accept it because they are sexy. They have every right to be offended by someone rudely starring at them.

No one's arguing about being naturally sexy, we're arguing about the specific action of purposely dressing sexy.

Dressing sexy is purposeful, something done for a reason.

Dressing sexy is to be sexually attractive or to enhance sexually attractive features. Everybody knows that, what are you getting at?

(January 17, 2016 at 2:26 am)Heat Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 2:19 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Of course I notice women, that's not what I am arguing about, what I'm arguing about is the fact that women who are being gawked at, should just have to accept it because they are sexy. They have every right to be offended by someone rudely starring at them.

No one's arguing about being naturally sexy, we're arguing about the specific action of purposely dressing sexy.

Dressing sexy is purposeful, something done for a reason.

Heat, how are you so positive that the only reason women dress sexy is to be gawked at? You realize there have been multiple women here who have said otherwise, speaking from personal sentiments. Don't you think it may be a bit far fetched to think you know more about women than women know about women?

Dude, Heat, I hope you're not advocating for women to not dress how they want because it givez you teh tinglz

(January 17, 2016 at 2:26 am)Heat Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 2:19 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Of course I notice women, that's not what I am arguing about, what I'm arguing about is the fact that women who are being gawked at, should just have to accept it because they are sexy. They have every right to be offended by someone rudely starring at them.

No one's arguing about being naturally sexy, we're arguing about the specific action of purposely dressing sexy.

Dressing sexy is purposeful, something done for a reason.

Actually in Lemonvariable72's post he uses the example of the girl in his class, no mention of her outfits.

(January 17, 2016 at 1:53 am)pool the great Wrote: I agree with you that sexuality has to be controlled to an extend, but it is never okay to suppress sexuality. Never.
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"Never"? Why? As I stated before - you voluntarily suppress your own sexuality all the time, for various reasons.
We are "wired" to have sex with anything our dicks fit into. And many people have additional aspects to their sexuality, fetishes and kinks, that they do and often have to keep to themselves, because they're likely to cause disgust in their potential partners. And what about pedophiles? Should they "never" suppress their sexuality? So yeah - it is pretty much always necessary to suppress sexuality, to some extent. And you're just arguing over what that extent is.

It's all a matter of social norms, instilled in us when we were young. You see - to me, being discreet about admiring women is natural and instinctive, because that's how I was brought up. People who grow up in cultures that allow for more open objectification of women understandably have a different idea of what "natural" behavior is. And someone raised by apes would be astonished that dry-humping every female in proximity is somehow unacceptable.

Staring at people is not acceptable in most social situations - it's associated with predatory behavior. Unflinching, prolonged eye contact between strangers means aggression in body language - it's the same among most mammals. Go to a bar and stare at a bunch of lumberjacks - see how they like it.

We are "wired" to punch in the face a person who stares at us - or run away from them, because throughout our evolution things that stared at us usually wanted to eat or rape us. Most of us suppress that urge nowadays and simply ask you politely to not be a creep.

(January 17, 2016 at 2:09 am)Heat Wrote:  Don't jump to conclusions about a person looking longer than normal and think they are the most perverted piece of shit human being on the planet like you have just demonstrated CL, and by all means if you are wearing something for the purpose of appearing attractive don't go and blame them for taking notice.

Haha. Jumping to conclusions is certainly good enough for you though, isn't it? 

You can't even fathom the possibility that a woman might want to dress sexy because she enjoys the way it makes her feel; you automatically conclude that a woman wearing anything that you happen to deem attractive, is simply aiming to tickle pickles, right?

(January 17, 2016 at 2:30 am)pool the great Wrote: Dude, Heat, I hope you're not advocating for women to not dress how they want because it givez you teh tinglz

Did I say that?