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Women's clothes?
RE: Women's clothes?
(January 17, 2016 at 3:24 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Tread lightly, Exian. They're in a mood to have your head off for sure. Best to just admit you're wrong and a bastard, then excuse yourself earnestly and run like hell.

Oh, I think I'm safe. Clearly, I was speaking for all the people in the right, while speaking against all the people in the wrong. And I think we know who we all are.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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RE: Women's clothes?
Well played. Okay, I'm taking notes now. Go on.
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RE: Women's clothes?
(January 17, 2016 at 3:25 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Okay. Yes women can wear whatever the fuck they want and no that does not give a man a greenlight to be a perv. /thread
Why the fuck are you staring at my dick when it's hanging out and going around naked gives me confidence and nothing to do with what other people think of me?



You fucking perv. I can wear whatever the fuck I want and you're not allowed to even look at me in a way that I deem disrespectful.



Are we children?
It's like that five year old who punches a classmate in the face and then says "He was looking at me funny". 
I mean where the fuck did this rebellious self-righteous attitude come from, that if you wear fucking remotely nothing EVERYONE ELSE IS TO BLAME FOR LOOKING AT YOU IN A PUBLIC AREA. I mean what the fuck dude, everyone's fucked in the head I swear to god. How is that fucking rational. "Let me do something, and when you call me out for clearly doing what I was doing, pretend that's not what I was doing and you should be ashamed to even assume that it was."

And why is it either: One quick glance and look away, or FULL ON PERVERTED SICKO DISGUSTING CREEPY FUCKING OLD MAN THINKING DIRTY THOUGHTS WHILE PULLING OUT THEIR FUCKING DICK AND WANKING OFF AS THEY UNDRESS YOU WITH THEIR EYES.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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RE: Women's clothes?
(January 17, 2016 at 2:11 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: When I was still single I used to wear really sexy, expensive underwear from Victoria's Secret. Only in my favorite colors - black, red, and hot pink. And yet... I was celibate and didn't strip down to my underwear in front of anyone. So, why did I wear them? Obviously no one was going to see them, and I knew that. I wore them because it made me feel sexy, for myself

Again, believe it or not, the existence of women doesn't revolve around men all the time. And neither should it.
Why the fuck would that make you feel sexy? What is deemed "sexy" if not by standards of your sexual preferential gender?


I'm gonna wear a bracelet I really like. AWW YEAH DUDE I'M SO FUCKING SEXY FUCK YEAH DUDE THIS IS THE SEXIEST THING I'VE EVER WORN, SCREW OTHER PEOPLE THIS IS GIVING ME CONFIDENCE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE FUCKING SEXIEST THING IN THE WORLD, NOTHING TO DO WITH OTHER PEOPLE FINDING IT ATTRACTIVE AWWWWWWWWWWWWWYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom

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The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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RE: Women's clothes?
(January 17, 2016 at 3:37 am)Heat Wrote:
(January 17, 2016 at 2:11 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: When I was still single I used to wear really sexy, expensive underwear from Victoria's Secret. Only in my favorite colors - black, red, and hot pink. And yet... I was celibate and didn't strip down to my underwear in front of anyone. So, why did I wear them? Obviously no one was going to see them, and I knew that. I wore them because it made me feel sexy, for myself

Again, believe it or not, the existence of women doesn't revolve around men all the time. And neither should it.
Why the fuck would that make you feel sexy? What is deemed "sexy" if not by standards of your sexual preferential gender?


I'm gonna wear a bracelet I really like. AWW YEAH DUDE I'M SO FUCKING SEXY FUCK YEAH DUDE THIS IS THE SEXIEST THING I'VE EVER WORN, SCREW OTHER PEOPLE THIS IS GIVING ME CONFIDENCE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE FUCKING SEXIEST THING IN THE WORLD, NOTHING TO DO WITH OTHER PEOPLE FINDING IT ATTRACTIVE AWWWWWWWWWWWWWYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

What's funny is the character you donned to satirize C_L understands it better than you.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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RE: Women's clothes?
(January 17, 2016 at 2:53 am)pool the great Wrote: Here's the two things I find in your posts that I know are wrong:

1. The reason for men to get aroused when they see a sexy chick is because it is how men are programmed by evolution, not society,[...]

Wrong. It's both - evolution AND society. Especially when it comes to the standards of what is perceived as "sexy" and "explicit".

And anyway most of us have an astonishing level of control over keeping our arousal to ourselves. Those who can't are not very well adapted to living in modern society. You see, sometimes - often - women are scantily clad because it's practical - like while working out or at the beach, or because it's a warm day - not to give you an imaginary lap-dance.

(January 17, 2016 at 2:53 am)pool the great Wrote: [...]Why should the sexuality of a heterosexual man that is supposedly objectifying a women by looking at her when she is explicitly dressed sexy be suppressed?  [...]

It makes people uncomfortable. There's nothing "social engineeringly" about not wanting to be around people, who make us uncomfortable - it's natural. Some people - like the ones with certain mental disorders - can't help it and it makes their lives more difficult and isolated. But most of us cope just fine. Would you feel comfortable, if every stranger stared shamelessly at your girlfriend?

And what you call "explicitly dressed sexy" is just your subjective idea, dictated by your society. To a muslim man a woman who's eyebrows are showing seems like a prick-teasing whore.

You want to look, do it. Just do it like you would at a person you respect. Not a piece of candy, that you hope, if you stare at it long enough - will fly into your mouth. Because that's probably your main problem with the whole thing - many men stare at women hoping to find that 1 in a 100 (although the number will depend on circumstances, like amount of booze around), that will stare back and subsequently put out. That's a very feeble strategy. Try talking to women instead.

(January 17, 2016 at 2:53 am)pool the great Wrote: What harm does this do to society so much that the sexuality of a heterosexual man has to suppressed and if possible social engineeringly altered to fit how a women or people that are opposed to this idea wants to fit?

It promotes the idea, that men are mindless animals, with little self-control, who are meant to use their dicks as a compass and there's nothing that can be done about it. Which is just bullsh*t and an excuse to act like a macho pr*ck, with no concern for others.

Would you openly stare at the shapely tits of a grieving widow, at a funeral? No? Why not? What could possibly be wrong about it, if unashamedly treating people as wank-bank material is fine and even - you could say - complimentary? It's probably her fault for looking good in black and she should be happy and flattered, that there are other men around willing to f*ck her, now that her husband kicked it, right? Or perhaps your evolution "taught" you not to notice tits in inappropriate situations?

How do you know what is the emotional state of a stranger you are eye-f*cking? How do you know she's not a lesbian, or hasn't been recently raped by some creep, who stared at her beforehand?  I can imagine to you feeling aroused is more important than  the feelings of people you are potentially making uncomfortable - but living in a civilized society means that sometimes we have to stop ourselves from things that seem normal to us. 

Masturbating in public theoretically doesn't hurt anyone, but would you really want to live in a society, where whacking it in the street was accepted? Yeah - I didn't think so. And that's just a different level of suppressing our natural ape-ish sexuality. And if that doesn't kill us - we can probably survive, while trying not to be blatantly obvious about our willingness to f*ck some stranger.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Women's clothes?
(January 17, 2016 at 3:42 am)Exian Wrote:
(January 17, 2016 at 3:37 am)Heat Wrote: Why the fuck would that make you feel sexy? What is deemed "sexy" if not by standards of your sexual preferential gender?


I'm gonna wear a bracelet I really like. AWW YEAH DUDE I'M SO FUCKING SEXY FUCK YEAH DUDE THIS IS THE SEXIEST THING I'VE EVER WORN, SCREW OTHER PEOPLE THIS IS GIVING ME CONFIDENCE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE FUCKING SEXIEST THING IN THE WORLD, NOTHING TO DO WITH OTHER PEOPLE FINDING IT ATTRACTIVE AWWWWWWWWWWWWWYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

What's funny is the character you donned to satirize C_L understands it better than you.
Is that a realistic character?

So is that a realistic response?

I rest my case.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom

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The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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RE: Women's clothes?
(January 17, 2016 at 3:44 am)Heat Wrote:
(January 17, 2016 at 3:42 am)Exian Wrote: What's funny is the character you donned to satirize C_L understands it better than you.
Is that a realistic character?

So is that a realistic response?

I rest my case.

I mean, yeah. Ever wear a watch? Would you wear a watch that goes with your basketball shorts with your tweed suit? No, you'd look silly as fuck. So you coordinated your leathers or your metals and feel like a fucking champ.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
Reply
RE: Women's clothes?
(January 17, 2016 at 3:48 am)Exian Wrote:
(January 17, 2016 at 3:44 am)Heat Wrote: Is that a realistic character?

So is that a realistic response?

I rest my case.

I mean, yeah. Ever wear a watch? Would you wear a watch that goes with your basketball shorts with your tweed suit? No, you'd look silly as fuck. So you coordinated your leathers or your metals and feel like a fucking champ.
Sounds like a lot of caring about what others think in a thread of which the women have specifically said dressing next to naked is not based on what other's think, which is absolute fucking insanity.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom

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The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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RE: Women's clothes?
(January 17, 2016 at 2:41 am)Heat Wrote:
(January 17, 2016 at 2:29 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Heat, how are you so positive that the only reason women dress sexy is to be gawked at? You realize there have been multiple women here who have said otherwise, speaking from personal sentiments. Don't you think it may be a bit far fetched to think you know more about women than women know about women?
And they're all for bullshit reasons.

I dress however I want, for whatever reason I want to, and nobody gives a single fuck what you think about it.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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