All of the first generation atheists without an exception have residual nagging believes – Freudian remnants of the psychological rapes their poor minds suffered when they were, as infants & teenagers, at the mercy of their brain-washed parents, society and the church! When in doubt, when in fear, and when in need of self preservation - they resort back to religious believes, incantations, and to mother church, synagogue, mosque or temple.

And you know this how exactly?

Evolution is 100% physical/matter/biological change. And believing in a religion is 100% social phenomenon.

So you're saying humanity is filled with imbeciles that can't deal with their own problems

(February 18, 2011 at 4:36 pm)Ashendant Wrote: So you're saying humanity is filled with imbeciles that can't deal with their own problems

that may be true, hmmmm

You need to brush up on the adage that says: "All generalizations are wrong....even this one."


Anyway, I'm a first generation atheist and I have no doubt that ALL religion is bullshit so your premise is wrong.

(February 18, 2011 at 3:14 pm)sun Wrote: All of the first generation atheists without an exception have residual nagging believes – Freudian remnants of the psychological rapes their poor minds suffered when they were, as infants & teenagers, at the mercy of their brain-washed parents, society and the church! When in doubt, when in fear, and when in need of self preservation - they resort back to religious believes, incantations, and to mother church, synagogue, mosque or temple.

1. Freud was wrong about almost everything, Psychoanalysis is DEBUNKED.

2. I know plenty of first generation atheists (as in their parents are theists) who don't have any residual beliefs, nagging or otherwise. Sure, some fga's will have this parental pressure on them and that [i]may[/] lead them to religious beliefs when under duress but that hardly makes it the case that they all have it.

Quote:All of the first generation atheists without an exception have residual nagging beliefs

That is certainly true for me,and it sounds intuitively true as a principle. However,I'm unaware of any evidence which allows such an inference. Be thrilled if you would share yours.

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(February 18, 2011 at 8:08 pm)theVOID Wrote:

(February 18, 2011 at 3:14 pm)sun Wrote: All of the first generation atheists without an exception have residual nagging believes – Freudian remnants of the psychological rapes their poor minds suffered when they were, as infants & teenagers, at the mercy of their brain-washed parents, society and the church! When in doubt, when in fear, and when in need of self preservation - they resort back to religious believes, incantations, and to mother church, synagogue, mosque or temple.

1. Freud was wrong about almost everything, Psychoanalysis is DEBUNKED.

2. I know plenty of first generation atheists (as in their parents are theists) who don't have any residual beliefs, nagging or otherwise. Sure, some fga's will have this parental pressure on them and that [i]may[/] lead them to religious beliefs when under duress but that hardly makes it the case that they all have it.

1. Hooray! A voice of reason.(translation I agree)

I began doubting old Siggy about 25 years ago,specifically about the history of the development of his theory on female hysteria. In latter years I went looking for empirical evidence of his ego/id/super ego model of consciousness.I've been unable to find any,but of course it may well be out there. In my opinion, the notion of consciousness as a varying range of perception and awareness works just as well,is simpler and less cumbersome.

Most psychiatrists in Australia are still Freudians. I think they do lot of harm.However,I'm not dismissing psychiatric medicine entirely. Some medications are crucial. I would probably be dead without anti depressants. I also respond well to behaviourial therapy. My position is a bucket of insight and about $5 will get you a half decent cup of coffee. My harsh opinion of psychoanalysis is that it is bourgeois self indulgence.


2 Indeed; The Black Swan (?).

(February 18, 2011 at 6:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You need to brush up on the adage that says: "All generalizations are wrong....even this one."


Anyway, I'm a first generation atheist and I have no doubt that ALL religion is bullshit so your premise is wrong.

What about Murphy’s Law: "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong"
Most of the time we are not sure of ourselves, things happen and we cope with them as best as we can.

Murphy's law is false...