What problematic beliefs of Christians/Jews are you referring to?

(February 2, 2016 at 6:50 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What problematic beliefs of Christians/Jews are you referring to?

A better question would be what aren't I referring to?

More or less all of them, insofar as they don't describe reality.

Well the context in which you said "problematic" sounded like you meant dangerous to be around, to a certain level, but not the same level as Muslims. That's how I understood it anyway

Did you just mean "problematic" as in simply not true in your opinion?

(February 2, 2016 at 7:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well the context in which you said "problematic" sounded like you meant dangerous to be around, to a certain level, but not the same level as Muslims. That's how I understood it anyway

Did you just mean "problematic" as in simply not true in your opinion?

Irrational would be a better word. The more irrational you are, the less I trust you or like you. Take you for example. You are very irrational.

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(February 2, 2016 at 6:14 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

Quote:1. "A person who is utterly intolerant of differing creed, belief, or opinion."

That definition is slightly ambiguous. Are we talking about any differing creed, belief or opinion from your own and what do we mean by utterly intolerant?

Quote:2. Oh, the irony! You being an atheist should mean only one thing about you (that you do not believe in God.) Being a Muslim, however, should also only mean a few things about you (that you believe in God and you consider the Quoran your holy book.) If you assume anything about their beliefs past that (including how much of the Quoran they know of and how literally they interpret it) then it's no different than me assuming you're an intolerant cockface because you're an atheist.  

It's not about what it should or it shouldn't. It's merely what it is. Being an atheist does mean simply not believing in God. That could make other persons suspicious(if he doesn't believe in God, does that mean he is exactly the opposite of what the bible describes as good?). The only difference being, when you're talking about a muslim, as you yourself pointed out, you're saying they believe in a certain thing and that they follow a certain book. There is no same thing when you're talking about an atheist. There is no book and no belief to be had. In fact it's the rejection of those things that makes one an atheist, to a certain extent.

It's not my problem that muslims choose to adhere to those ideas and it's not for me to think about how much of a muslim are they when I think about making friends or having a beer with someone. If they don't want me to jump to justified conclusions they shouldn't publicly identify as muslims.

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If you don't see the problem with you saying that then I'm not sure how to respond.

(February 2, 2016 at 7:31 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(February 2, 2016 at 6:14 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: That definition is slightly ambiguous. Are we talking about any differing creed, belief or opinion from your own and what do we mean by utterly intolerant?

It's not about what it should or it shouldn't. It's merely what it is. Being an atheist does mean simply not believing in God. That could make other persons suspicious(if he doesn't believe in God, does that mean he is exactly the opposite of what the bible describes as good?). The only difference being, when you're talking about a muslim, as you yourself pointed out, you're saying they believe in a certain thing and that they follow a certain book. There is no same thing when you're talking about an atheist. There is no book and no belief to be had. In fact it's the rejection of those things that makes one an atheist, to a certain extent.

It's not my problem that muslims choose to adhere to those ideas and it's not for me to think about how much of a muslim are they when I think about making friends or having a beer with someone. If they don't want me to jump to justified conclusions they shouldn't publicly identify as muslims.

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If you don't see the problem with you saying that then I'm not sure how to respond.

I'll take that as an admittance of defeat and won't read any further into it.

(February 2, 2016 at 6:50 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What problematic beliefs of Christians/Jews are you referring to?

Beliefs of Christians:

1. You are, just by participating in the sin or your birth, evil.

2. You are not simply imperfect, as in failing to approach the limits of the construct imagineered by humanity which we call perfection, and therefore prone to making errors as you learn to navigate this world. Nononono, you don't deserve such fair treatment as that, for the bible says, and your god has declared that you are naturally evil.

3. You are at least twice as evil if you happen to have been born female.

4. Therefore, you need the forgiveness of a god with the personality of no man who you would tolerate in society, much less in your home. This is a true Mafia don of a god, who demands your worship, tribute, and respect de facto. He's not a bully, he's righteous!

5. God's love is so deep that he doesn't really want you to be tortured for all eternity in the firey hell which he cannot in any credible way disavow his responsibility for, which goes with the responsibility you carry when you happen to be able to see all of the future, have all the power to alter any scenario, and can do this everywhere all at the same time. Therefore he decided to take out all his rage for your offenses brought on by being born imperfect, just as he made you to be, on his own son by killing him on a cross. What a hell of a great Dad your God da Fatha Yahweh Corleone is! Actually, he makes Al Pacino's Corleone look like a really nice guy by comparision!

If you don't mind my asking, I'm curious as to how you, as a young woman, feel about having the rules for your own conduct handed down by a bunch of old guys who have so little empathy for your gender, and may not have ever so much as spent a night with a woman, much less really loved or cared about one? They know so little about you that to them you're almost a different species, and yet you allow them to lord their authority over you? They also may have something to say about your avatar photo, if that's really you sporting those bare shoulders, low-neck blouse, and shit-eating grin - very naughty!

(February 2, 2016 at 4:32 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(February 2, 2016 at 3:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

The only problem being is I wouldn't feel safe in that environment. Maybe if you replaced the Muslim with a Jain.

I'm anti-Islam EP, but I'm not anti-all Muslims. I'm against religions but not against religious people.

The above was your original statement.

So are you just against Islam or do you really not feel comfortable around any Muslims at all? Does an environment involving a random Muslim really make you feel unsafe or not?

(February 2, 2016 at 7:44 pm)Evie Wrote:

(February 2, 2016 at 4:32 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: The only problem being is I wouldn't feel safe in that environment. Maybe if you replaced the Muslim with a Jain.

I'm anti-Islam EP, but I'm not anti-all Muslims. I'm against religions but not against religious people.

The above was your original statement.

So are you just against Islam or do you really not feel comfortable around any Muslims at all? Does an environment involving a random Muslim really make you feel unsafe or not?

That's hard to answer. Life isn't that black and white.

Your being against religions does mean you're against religious people as well - insofar as they are religious. I'm sorry, but P.C. culture has brainwashed you into ridiculous language games.