(February 28, 2016 at 9:40 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(February 28, 2016 at 9:31 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: I'm a Bernie nut.

No doubt about it.  But so will Hillary.

LOL, am I literally the only one that voted for abstention? I really can't decide but either way, America is screwed. The left is far left and the right is far right. Everything is bigger in America, including politics.

(February 28, 2016 at 9:31 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(February 28, 2016 at 8:42 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: Well go ahead and vote for Trump in the primary. I'll buy you beer.

I'm a Bernie nut.

Ultimately your choice will be Hillary or Trump.


Choose wisely.

(February 29, 2016 at 7:49 pm)Living in Death Wrote: The left is far left and the right is far right. Everything is bigger in America, including politics.

Boy, you don't know what far left is. Bernie's a moderate social democrat by European standards. You only have a point with red danger hysterics being bigger in America and with the right really being far right these days. They're certainly not what Europeans call conservative. Obama, on the other hand, fits the bill quite nicely.

(February 28, 2016 at 8:28 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:

(February 28, 2016 at 7:54 pm)abaris Wrote: More importantly, they can fuck up the whole world for decades. Shrub gave a splendid demonstration of that happening. That's about the only reason I'm at all interested in the American elections.

I'm not a fan of Hilary, since I think, she will just deliver more of the same. But Dump would be a clear and present danger and a nuclear disaster waiting to happen.

I'm an American so I don't have the perspective of a foreigner worrying about what Hillary would do on the world stage. It's still an important issue to me though. I think of myself as a citizen of humanity rather than as a citizen of a particular country. I do think America remains the most important country in the world at this time because of a combination of progressiveness and power. I actually like Trump's message of making America great again because I feel we have lost something very important in our industrial base. You can't be great if you aren't at the forefront of building things.

I wouldn't worry too much about what Trump would do on the world stage because he cannot possibly be elected President. This country is diverse. You can lose one particular demographic but only to a point. Trump is so hated by Hispanics, he doesn't have a chance. Additionally, the black community loves the Clinton's. White males will favor Trump by a large margin (I'm ashamed to say, being a white male) but it will not be enough to overcome his deficits with blacks and Hispanics. Fear Rubio rather than Trump. Rubio has a very realistic chance of winning the general election. Trump has no chance at all. I just hope our Republican crazies don't figure that out in time.

And that's not addressing Trump's numbers with women, who are more than half the electorate.

It should be anyone but Clinton, but lately it's been anyone but Trump. Most people don't know how corrupt the Clintons are, but Trump seems to be attracting people who just want a change from the establishment. In reality it would irresponsible from the establishment point of view to let people for vote Trump if they can help it, and they certainly have some tricks to pull if it gets closer.

Get ready for some dirty tricks in the next few months.

I mean Bill Clinton when he was governor went to drug rehab for cocaine abuse, and when you look into their past they were drug running for the CIA through Mena AK, and he's settled out of court numerous times for rape. His thing is he likes to bite through the upper lip of women. I realize that's not Hillary, but she's involved as well, and has her own schemes. Look at the Clinton foundation for example. She's establishment as it gets.

Not that it matters much but this is what Edward Snowden tweeted.

2016: a choice between Donald Trump and Goldman Sachs.

These people are involved in corruption full time. At least Trump from those that know him, just wants to make the country he lives in better. I think the people are slowly starting to wake up. Once they start talking about how our country has been taken over by globalist tax exempt organizations and people, I think the people will choose wisely. I don't like everything about Trump, but at least he's a fresh perspective.

Also I don't care about Europe. They are on the verge of collapse due to their failed socialist policies. Just wait another 9 months, and you will start to see it as obvious. They are the first to go.

(February 29, 2016 at 8:58 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: It should be anyone but Clinton, but lately it's been anyone but Trump. Most people don't know how corrupt the Clintons are, but Trump seems to be attracting people who just want a change from the establishment.

By voting for someone, who actually is the establishment? For someone having gone through several bankrupcies already? They're attracted by him being a loud mouth. Not because he actually has something to offer.

(February 28, 2016 at 5:43 pm)abaris Wrote: So, I gather, it's not a tool for you, but something else. Unless you had a home invasion by a whole company that is.

It's a tool.  I used it to smash clay pigeons.

(February 29, 2016 at 9:04 pm)Chas Wrote: It's a tool.  I used it to smash clay pigeons.

So it's not a tool. A tool is something you take up when something needs to be taken care of. Smashing clay pigeons is more on the lines of a hobby and a toy to have some fun.

I dunno, you get a bunch of clay pigeons nesting in your attic and some tool will be necessary to eradicate the infestation.