(March 17, 2011 at 7:12 am)theVOID Wrote: If your point Dotard, is that he genuinely believed she was 17 and she told him as much and consented then I don't think he should be punished, period - That circumstance would not in any way be his fault.

Thank You.

So lets put it this way, if an 11 y.o. wishes and even enjoys sex with a grownup, does that makes it ok if the guy is ignorant about her age? Is that what you are advocating for Dotard and Void?

(March 17, 2011 at 5:58 pm)LastPoet Wrote: So lets put it this way, if an 11 y.o. wishes and even enjoys sex with a grownup, does that makes it ok if the guy is ignorant about her age? Is that what you are advocating for Dotard and Void?

Depends... how old does the eleven year old look appear to be/claim to be?

The appearance is not relevant for this, Sae.

(March 17, 2011 at 6:24 pm)LastPoet Wrote: The appearance is not relevant for this, Sae.

Because thinking your foe had a smaller army than it actually was never lost a battle before

(March 17, 2011 at 6:28 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Because thinking your foe had a smaller army than it actually was never lost a battle before

That may be relevant for military tactics, but I don't see how your affirmation applies to the topis at hand

(March 17, 2011 at 6:33 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(March 17, 2011 at 6:28 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Because thinking your foe had a smaller army than it actually was never lost a battle before

That may be relevant for military tactics, but I don't see how your affirmation applies to the topis at hand

It matters what one sees when they open their eyes. I could have sworn my Japanese teacher of last semester was 30. She's ~65, with grandchildren.

Believing that someone is 16+ (or whatever) means that one was not intentionally having sex with a minor, and infact thought that the person they were having sex with was legal. How can you possibly expect to know when someone is lying if they put forth an act that convinces you? Say you ask for evidence and that too is falsified. You've lost this battle to a combination of trust, assumption, and spontaneous desire... should you really be further punished when the truth hits you?

Yes, because one is an adult, and an adult will have the responsability to check the truth of the matter. Also if you act on impulse and let yourself fall to your desires, getting fooled by a child, damn true you deserve punishment. What are we? Simple irrational animals?

Quote:Believing that someone is 16+ (or whatever) means that one was not intentionally having sex with a minor, and infact thought that the person they were having sex with was legal

WE have people hanging out around here who 'believe' that the earth is 6,000 years old and all life came from some fucking god playing in the dirt. Why do you consider such people to be morons but allow for the possibility that someone could believe an 11 year old is really 17?

Belief can fuck you up.

(March 17, 2011 at 6:59 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Yes, because one is an adult, and an adult will have the responsability to check the truth of the matter. Also if you act on impulse and let yourself fall to your desires, getting fooled by a child, damn true you deserve punishment. What are we? Simple irrational animals?

I'd like to see you manage a majority population of fools, then.

Min Wrote:WE have people hanging out around here who 'believe' that the earth is 6,000 years old and all life came from some fucking god playing in the dirt. Why do you consider such people to be morons but allow for the possibility that someone could believe an 11 year old is really 17?

Belief can fuck you up.

I allow the possibility of someone to believe that the earth is 6000 old. It is much easier to call bullshit to a tall tale than it is to a mistaken observation.