(April 12, 2016 at 11:20 am)Drich Wrote:

(April 11, 2016 at 3:38 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Why doesn't it ever work though? The only proven effective treatment for transgendered is to let them transition.

It is not ideology. It is practice and experience. The medical establishment tried absolutely everything they could to stop transgendered people transitioning. Absolutely nothing else worked.

That's not true, there are some examples in the case study I posted of successful treatments that did not result in a sex change. it depends on the individual. Some transexuals want to be however they were born, they just need help.

The difficulty is in determining who is transsexual and who isn't. If you truly are a transsexual then the only effective treatment is to transition. Absolutely everything else has been tried. And believe me, the medical establishment did try. They have historically been extremely hostile to transsexuals.

(April 12, 2016 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: If GID fits a medical diagnosis of mental illness then why are the mentally Ill allowed to change the laws?

So what you are saying that people shouldn't have a say about what happens to them if they have a medical condition?

(April 12, 2016 at 12:14 pm)Drich Wrote: No mentally Ill people by clinical definition have a impediment in how they think and or interact with others.

Excellent. I am glad that you have admitted this. Now will you please answer the following question with this in mind:

(April 11, 2016 at 1:39 pm)Mathilda Wrote: If someone transitions and can as a consequent function perfectly well in society. If they are accepted as such in their chosen gender and no one knows their medical history, which becomes less and less relevant to their daily lives. If they are happy and contended with their lives and able to achieve great things, then how can they be considered mentally ill?

(April 12, 2016 at 12:19 pm)Drich Wrote: nuupe. I'm asking if Mentally ill people should be allowed to set policy/Make laws.

On the whole the world would be a better place if they did not.

American Psychological Association To Classify Belief in God As a Mental Illness

(April 12, 2016 at 11:50 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: What?!  So gender dysphoria = rapist?    Your ignorance make sick to my stomach, Drich.

No.
Rapist=Rapist

Hetro Rapist + pretending to be trans = rape on bathroom floor for some woman or girl.

Hetro Perv + a go pro+ pretending to be a trans= your ass on the interwebs.

It's not the trans/1%ers that will be the big problem. It's opening the door to anyone who wants access to the bathroom facilities of the opposite sex, just so 'we' can indulge the mentally ill by allowing them to live out their wants to be someone different..

(April 12, 2016 at 12:02 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(April 12, 2016 at 11:55 am)Drich Wrote: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/sexual...to-assault
http://americansfortruth.com/2014/11/03/...ns-spaces/
http://ktla.com/2013/05/14/da-cross-dres...z2TKsMicgJ

The mainstream media buries these stories to force LGBT propaganda. Are we so stupid to think no one is going to take avantage of these 'laws?'

For what? so that 1% of the population can indulge their mental illness?

Drich, these people are SEX OFFENDERS.  They took hold of an opportunity that presented itself.  If it hadn't been that opportunity, they would have found another one.  These stories are not a case for your argument.

No dorkie duh!

Read the above post

(April 12, 2016 at 12:02 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

Drich Wrote:flip the coin sport. You are potentially putting "mentally Ill" men in the lady's restroom. And you are putting a female potentially in a hostel male restroom.

How long before a mentally Ill female get 'raped' by some monster who want to help her figure out she is indeed a 'woman?'

Since it hasn't happened yet despite millions of opportunities for it to happen, it is certainly too rare to re-order society in order to guard against it. Have you considered the logistics of making sure that trans people don't use the bathroom they prefer? Maybe have school bathrooms that run on pass cards and handprints so only kids the school has determined the sex of can use the bathrooms assigned to them?

There goes the psy club degree hard at work again. Maybe you can get some of your money back.. or did you get your degree from trump? (i kid)

I has happened I provided 3 recent examples of it 'happening' reported to local news media. The national news refuses or is too scared to run the story.

(April 12, 2016 at 1:19 pm)LastPoet Wrote: What if Christianity is a mental disorder? Or any other religion? Mirror mirror on the wall

Like suffering from a delusion that takes hold of your entire life, affects your mood, thinking and behaviour, and carries great monetary and personal cost.

(April 12, 2016 at 12:11 pm)BlackBird Wrote: This is also quickly turning into "any kind of mental illness = mentally incompetent". Should all people with a mental health diagnosis be kept out of the bathroom for the safety of themselves and others? Should they all be kept from making public policy? Should I be allowed to be around kids (or in charge of my own kids) with a depression diagnosis in my past?

Even if transgender people technically have a mental illness, that doesn't mean they are incapable of making their own decisions. It doesn't make them dangerous. It doesn't mean they should be marginalized. It doesn't mean we should keep them out of power.

The implications here make me, frankly, sick.

probably cause your a douche making up a narrative as you go rather than sticking to what I've said. I suggested that the minority should not make enforceable laws for the majority. Especially when the minority is suffering from mental illness. Not only that those 'laws' also open up a 'loop hole' for sexual predators to exploit.

Again, it looks like we are so concerned about being P/C we are willing to check basic thought at the door.

(April 12, 2016 at 1:30 pm)Drich Wrote: You do understand that you are a minority with in a minority, with in yet another minority? Meaning the first minority is that trans gendered people represent less than 1% of the total population. That is minority 1, Minority 2 is the fact that the Mayo Clinic cites the a fraction of the Transsexual community actually receives help. That is minority 2. Of those who do seek or receive help, a very small minority are stable. that is minority 3. Figuritivly speaking you and people like you are but a handful compared to the millions who suffer from GID and are not mentallly stable.

Bullshit. You're talking about your arse. I bet you have met transsexuals and not even known about their medical history and just assumed that they were stable cisgendered people.