(April 13, 2016 at 10:50 am)Drich Wrote: Don't be stupid. If the same bald guy who posts video's on this forum walks into a woman's bathroom claiming to be a woman, anyone with the gift of sight know your full of crap, and women will exit the bathroom or you will be escorted out.

There will be no need for a genital check.

If you pulled that crap in my place of business and insisted, a genital check would most likly come in the form of a swift kick in the twig and berries. if you double over and wet yourself then I'd say problem solved and you can go on your way.

Drich, the fact that you think that guy represents a trans person shows just how ignorant you are.

Which is the cis woman and which is the transsexual?

(April 13, 2016 at 10:36 am)Drich Wrote:

(April 12, 2016 at 8:56 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: What this entire thread boils down to is, it makes Drich feel disgusted and uncomfortable to imagine having to share a bathroom with a transexual.  Unfortunately for him, no one here gives a shit.  

no, thats what small minded people want it to boil down to so they do not have to acknowledge the larger social issues.

The problem with small minded people is they tend to think wide left, and when someone does not agree with their wide left programming they try and play the race/bigotry card.

Typical kill the messenger (by labeling the messenger someone acceptable to hate or be intolerant against) which allows the self righteous left winger to feel justified in dismissing the message.

Wake up, this isn't 1999 anymore, and you are not Bill Marr. It's time to try and learn to think for your self. I listed a whole long list of reason why legislation that supports a minority of a minority is not good for the people in this or another country. I've also repeatedly said that transsexuals are not at the core of my disagreement with this action, it is those looking to exploit this allowance or loop hole to prey on the opposite sex while they are in a vulnerable position.

What I did say that pertains to transsexuals is this will also enable those who suffer from GID that go untreated (which according to the Mayo clinic is the vast majority) will be enabled to put off treatment even longer.

The sexual assault angle on this is pure garbage, Drich. Not to mention another slippery slope. Any sex offender could follow any woman into a deserted public restroom and assault her with minimal amount of forethought and planning. I mean, have you ever been in a Thru way rest stop at 1 am?

So, by your train of thought, no one with a penis should be allowed anywhere NEAR the ladies room at all, regardless of how they are dressed. So, why not work toward legislation to keep all men 100 feet away from public women's rooms? I mean, since women aren't safe to go to the bathroom in public. [emoji849]

(April 13, 2016 at 10:59 am)Drich Wrote:

(April 13, 2016 at 9:57 am)ChadWooters Wrote: The denial of access is justified because bathroom segregation is based on objective biological sex not subjective gender identity.

Drich! These guys claim to be all about science and objectivity...except when it comes to sex. Then its all about how people "feel" and not the objective facts.

Hypocrites!

This is how Jesus felt when trying to teach the pharisees.

(April 13, 2016 at 10:59 am)Drich Wrote: Hypocrites!

This is how Jesus felt when trying to teach the pharisees.

Oh, for fuck's sake. Comparing yourself to Jesus now? Get over it, man. This is planet earth we're talking about.

(April 13, 2016 at 10:10 am)robvalue Wrote: OK, so let's get real.

Even if this mindless bigotry and misinformation was to be acted on, how could it possibly work?

1) Genital scanning equipment outside toilets

2) Genital examination stations

3) ID cards that need validating every week/month by a doctor to make sure your genitals are what you say there are

I propose a much more simple solution:

4) Get the fuck over yourselves, and stop thinking so hard about other peoples' genitals

how about we do what we do now, and simply say no to those who do not look the part. It's like passing a counterfeit bill. would you knowingly pass counterfeit currency? No. but does that mean you haven't ever? again no. So what do you do? take the obvious forgeries out of circulation.

The second thing we do is not punish those who want to live in a state that activly seeks to take conterfeits out of circulation.

(April 13, 2016 at 10:59 am)Drich Wrote:

(April 13, 2016 at 9:57 am)ChadWooters Wrote: The denial of access is justified because bathroom segregation is based on objective biological sex not subjective gender identity.

Drich! These guys claim to be all about science and objectivity...except when it comes to sex. Then its all about how people "feel" and not the objective facts.

Hypocrites!

This is how Jesus felt when trying to teach the pharisees.

It's not hypocrisy. Many laws and policies are based on feelings, such as the stalking law I mentioned earlier (it must demonstrably cause "fear or alarm", in most statutes' wording), as well as laws about threats made. 

Besides it's not just about how they feel.  It's who they are at the deepest possible level. It's so strong that the dysphoria causes severe psychological issues until resolved (if the person decides the surgery/hormone therapies are worth it, of course), which is why it's in the DSM5. Basically, it's people like you who hurt them so badly based on a freakin' body-part, which causes it. You should read about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

If you  were objective, instead of reacting emotionally to something that you find disgusting, you could see this clearly instead of clucking like a pair of hens and patting yourself on the back for finding a bit of (false) righteous indignation to make you feel like Jesus.

(April 13, 2016 at 10:13 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(April 13, 2016 at 10:10 am)robvalue Wrote: OK, so let's get real.

I propose a much more simple solution:

4) Get the fuck over yourselves, and stop thinking so hard about other people's genitals

Yep!  And this should be the END of the discussion, right here.

I mean, I can't even think of one time where I was peeing in a public bathroom and thinking to myself...'gee, I wonder if the lady in the stall next to me has a dick?'

never used a 'trough' before huh? (don't use the men room at a nascar event)

Never mind seeing another dude's junk the goal here is not to get his splash back on you, or worse yet having the guy next to you be firing in a couple different directions and nail you full on..

(April 13, 2016 at 11:11 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: If you  were objective, instead of reacting emotionally to something that you find disgusting, you could see this clearly instead of clucking like a pair of hens and patting yourself on the back for finding a bit of (false) righteous indignation to make you feel like Jesus.

Not to mention that the biblical Jesus probably would have suffered a barf cramp over what Drippy represents. At least in his more humane moments.

Getting pissed on by a stranger at a NASCAR event could be the closest Drich might come to sharing Jesus' thought/feelings. Not sure why he'd avoid it.

(April 13, 2016 at 11:15 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Getting pissed on by a stranger at a NASCAR event could be the closest Drich might come to sharing Jesus' thought/feelings. Not sure why he'd avoid it.

I thought that was an exclusive treatment at soccer stadiums.