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April 19, 2016 at 7:52 pm
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It's so obvious Leprechaun's have no proof of existence. So much so we should support ourselves for not believing them, don't you guys think?
So who is with me, Aleprechaunsforums.com?
And don't forget Pixies. We need Apixiesforums.com, because it's so obvious to us we have no proof of their existence, that we need to support one another for it!
Right?
ahobbitsforums.com atrollsforums.com where is our peer support groups for what obviously we have no reason to believe in?
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RE: aleprechaunforums.com!
April 19, 2016 at 7:55 pm
Speaking of atrollsforums.com ...
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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RE: aleprechaunforums.com!
April 19, 2016 at 8:07 pm
Clearly it's not practical to list every single thing for which there's no evidence. That's why the word 'sceptic' (or 'skeptic' if you really must) exists, an umbrella term encompassing all those things. Atheism is simply a specialised subset of that, dedicated to one subject.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: aleprechaunforums.com!
April 19, 2016 at 8:07 pm
Of course, people don't kill, discriminate and dictate how other people should live their lives based upon a belief in leprechauns, now do they?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: aleprechaunforums.com!
April 19, 2016 at 8:18 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 8:07 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Clearly it's not practical to list every single thing for which there's no evidence. That's why the word 'sceptic' (or 'skeptic' if you really must) exists, an umbrella term encompassing all those things. Atheism is simply a specialised subset of that, dedicated to one subject.
Why specialize though? Why emphasis on "God"?
(April 19, 2016 at 8:07 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Of course, people don't kill, discriminate and dictate how other people should live their lives based upon a belief in leprechauns, now do they?
People kill, discriminate, and dictate on how other people should live their lives based on many things. But this is the core issue, you are right.
It's all because God if he exists can dictate and should dictate on how to live. If people didn't take the idea that God would say anything to humanity seriously, they wouldn't care about if a God exists or not.
This is why Quran says "And have you seen who disputed with Abraham regarding his Lord due to God giving him (Abraham) the authority..."
It all comes down to that. Nimrod was just disputing Abraham with meaningless things to not submit to God through Abraham. He doesn't want Abraham dictating him on how to live and what to do.
The idea of God is powerful. Indeed it is. But people would not care where it not for religion. I found myself slowly realizing this when I was a Deist. I was lost. I believe the philosopher King who sees wisdom and justice as is, sees the light as is, of plato made sense, but was realizing without revelation from God, without proof from God and without designation from God, none of this would ever take place. Plato's ideal is an ideal, but God doesn't care.
And people would of easily dismissed all religions long time ago if people didn't believe the divine has anything to do with humanity.
Of course there is all sorts of corruptions in religion, no one is disputing that, but the central thing, is you don't want to be dictated on how to live.
So let's cut to the chase. Is it accurate to say people gather to support one another of Atheism to avoid submitting to any person claiming to represent God?
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RE: aleprechaunforums.com!
April 19, 2016 at 8:23 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 8:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Why specialize though? Why emphasis on "God"?
Because religion has become so ingrained in society that "Atheism" requires it's own classification as far as religion goes. Before there was religion, there was no need for a classification as "Atheist".
For example we don't have a term for people who believe in Leprechauns. This is because it's not become ingrained in society to the point where we need a term for it.
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RE: aleprechaunforums.com!
April 19, 2016 at 8:25 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 8:23 pm)Cecelia Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 8:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Why specialize though? Why emphasis on "God"?
Because religion has become so ingrained in society that "Atheism" requires it's own classification as far as religion goes. Before there was religion, there was no need for a classification as "Atheist".
For example we don't have a term for people who believe in Leprechauns. This is because it's not become ingrained in society to the point where we need a term for it.
So to an extent you are bothered by what the masses believe?
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RE: aleprechaunforums.com!
April 19, 2016 at 8:28 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 8:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (April 19, 2016 at 8:07 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Clearly it's not practical to list every single thing for which there's no evidence. That's why the word 'sceptic' (or 'skeptic' if you really must) exists, an umbrella term encompassing all those things. Atheism is simply a specialised subset of that, dedicated to one subject.
Why specialize though? Why emphasis on "God"?
Perhaps because a word was needed to distinguish between those that believe and those that don't. Incidentally, atheism doesn't put the emphasis on "God" alone. The focus is on all theistic claims and beliefs. There are thousands of gods worshipped throughout history and many still 'active' today. The big-G god is merely one amongst those many.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: aleprechaunforums.com!
April 19, 2016 at 8:29 pm
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(April 19, 2016 at 7:52 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It's so obvious Leprechaun's have no proof of existence. So much so we should support ourselves for not believing them, don't you guys think?
So who is with me, Aleprechaunsforums.com?
And don't forget Pixies. We need Apixiesforums.com, because it's so obvious to us we have no proof of their existence, that we need to support one another for it!
Right?
ahobbitsforums.com atrollsforums.com where is our peer support groups for what obviously we have no reason to believe in?
Nice try...
Since when do believers in pixies, leprechauns, hobbits, etc:
Blow themselves up in public places.
Try to get their "leprechaun based teachings" taught in public schools.
Persecute minorities, because their pixie teachings tell them to.
Fly planes into buildings, because Gandalf promised them 72 virgin Hobbits.
Chop people's heads off for not sharing their beliefs.
Etc, etc, etc...
Your religion, and all others, have real world negative consequences. Your unsupported, unevidenced beliefs do not live in a vacuum. They inform your actions.
As soon as believers in leprechauns try to force their beliefs on me, I will start a forum called, Aleprechaunsforums.com.
Deal?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: aleprechaunforums.com!
April 19, 2016 at 8:30 pm
(April 19, 2016 at 8:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Of course there is all sorts of corruptions in religion, no one is disputing that, but the central thing, is you don't want to be dictated on how to live.
So let's cut to the chase. Is it accurate to say people gather to support one another of Atheism to avoid submitting to any person claiming to represent God?
You guys always come back to this. I think it stems from the fact that you truly cannot fathom the rejection of your god for purely empirical reasons.
Thousands of times on this forum we have told theists why we don't believe. Thousands of times you ignore our reasons for the ones you make up, because it's easier to argue with your version.
The only conclusion is that you deliberately wish to misrepresent people in order to make yourself feel better about your perceived position relative to us. So be it. Just don't expect a rational conversation to follow.
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