Trend of people on television losing their livelihood for spewing their bigotry rather than shutting their ignorant face holes...doesn't make me feel sad.

(April 20, 2016 at 11:33 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(April 20, 2016 at 10:54 pm)Sterben Wrote:           Gender identity disorder, a simple concept which covers a wide variety of behaviors. The little boy playing barbie dolls, or the little boy playing with his sisters make up. I heard about this story on the radio (http://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/new...-daughter/). His daughter who is only four want's a penis. Your right, I have very rough and general understanding of it. A father seeing his son playing barbie dolls may be a alarm, or be a passing phase. I have a general understanding of gender dysphria and it is considered rare.

Jibbers Crabst, no. Crossing stupid gender stereotypes has nothing to do with Gender Dysphoria. A girl who hates dresses or a boy who hates sports and wants to play with dolls is not what being transgender is, at all. That is just society's stupid 'rules' that we try and push our kids into believing. You're not a real boy unless you love sports and learn to objectify women at a shockingly young age, or if you play with dolls you're a sissy.

No.

Gender dysphoria is the physical and mental feeling of being in the wrong body. Your brain's gender makeup doesn't match your body's sexual expression. It is a constant, unrelenting mental gulf that a person has, until science has caught up with explaining it better, had to just try and cross in some way. I cannot even imagine how unrelenting it must be. Probably similar to phantom limbs with amputees. There's supposed to be something there, and your brain thinks there's something there, but there just isn't, and you're glad for the 3 or 4 minutes a day when you aren't thinking of it because you're occupied with something else.

The problem lies in people creating these opinions about what to do, having clearly no understanding of the issue before forming those opinions. I don't understand why people do this. When these issues started to come to light, the first thing I googled was "what is it like to be trans" and learned about what it really is, from the mouths of people who experience it. Before anyone is allowed to make policy opinions, I think they should at the very least have the human decency learn what it's like (as much as it's possible) from the people who are affected by the policies they are considering.

       Learning and understand a issue always should be considered in the matter of policy, if your making public policy you need to consult professionals who deal with the issues on a everyday basis. As a child I hated sports and still do, that's cause I was taught it was a unneeded venue for men and woman to demonstrate there superiority over others. I still hold the same opinion to this day. As a society we do need to respect woman more and get rid of terms like "Sissy,nancyboy, and no-homo". These words probably will never go away, and terms like faggot, cunt, fag, and gay will never be able be uses properly again cause of society's twists on the words. As a child I was also taught to have the up most respect people who deserve respect. My parents raised quite differently, I was not allowed to play sports either my sister, and to this day I thank them to this day for not letting me.

(April 20, 2016 at 11:41 pm)paulpablo Wrote:

(April 20, 2016 at 11:38 pm)Sterben Wrote:       Your right about that, expressing an opinion does not make you a bad employee. It's the means you express the opinion in which can cause problems. The duck dynasty guy who took a lot of shit for saying what he said. A lot of people feel that way and a lot of people disagree with what he said, that does not mean he should not lose his show. I can understand pressures from others in the numbers that had problems with what he said being a factor. It does not make it right that he may lose his job, to satisfy the offended people they will probably let him go. In this day and age, it's sometimes best to keep your opinions to yourself if your in certain professional positions.

I feel two ways about it.  If his employer wants to fire him they should be able to. On the other hand if there's a trend of people losing their livelihood from expressing an opinion that could be trouble. This person in particular won't be punished by it too badly he probably has enough money.

         Before anyone opens there mouth they should consider if they handle the consequences of there words. Such has if you say in a private conversation, "Jim's girlfriend has a great body and would not mind being with her." The person who said that, better be able to handle the fall out if Jim ever finds out he said that.

(April 21, 2016 at 12:05 am)Sterben Wrote:

(April 20, 2016 at 11:33 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Jibbers Crabst, no. Crossing stupid gender stereotypes has nothing to do with Gender Dysphoria. A girl who hates dresses or a boy who hates sports and wants to play with dolls is not what being transgender is, at all. That is just society's stupid 'rules' that we try and push our kids into believing. You're not a real boy unless you love sports and learn to objectify women at a shockingly young age, or if you play with dolls you're a sissy.

No.

Gender dysphoria is the physical and mental feeling of being in the wrong body. Your brain's gender makeup doesn't match your body's sexual expression. It is a constant, unrelenting mental gulf that a person has, until science has caught up with explaining it better, had to just try and cross in some way. I cannot even imagine how unrelenting it must be. Probably similar to phantom limbs with amputees. There's supposed to be something there, and your brain thinks there's something there, but there just isn't, and you're glad for the 3 or 4 minutes a day when you aren't thinking of it because you're occupied with something else.

The problem lies in people creating these opinions about what to do, having clearly no understanding of the issue before forming those opinions. I don't understand why people do this. When these issues started to come to light, the first thing I googled was "what is it like to be trans" and learned about what it really is, from the mouths of people who experience it. Before anyone is allowed to make policy opinions, I think they should at the very least have the human decency learn what it's like (as much as it's possible) from the people who are affected by the policies they are considering.

       Learning and understand a issue always should be considered in the matter of policy, if your making public policy you need to consult professionals who deal with the issues on a everyday basis. As a child I hated sports and still do, that's cause I was taught it was a unneeded venue for men and woman to demonstrate there superiority over others. I still hold the same opinion to this day. As a society we do need to respect woman more and get rid of terms like "Sissy,nancyboy, and no-homo". These words probably will never go away, and terms like faggot, cunt, fag, and gay will never be able be uses properly again cause of society's twists on the words. As a child I was also taught to have the up most respect people who deserve respect. My parents raised quite differently, I was not allowed to play sports either my sister, and to this day I thank them to this day for not letting me.

That's really nice but a bit off topic. What's it got to do with gender dysphoria?

If your job is a public figure for a media organization, all of your media platforms are representative of your employer.

If you sign on to be public figure, sorry, you don't get to do this. Also, this is like the third time Schilling has done this. Last time he compared Muslims to Nazis.

ESPN is owned by Disney. If you start to affect a company's bottom line, they should be able to fire you.

Like Steel said, Curt Shilling is a Grade-A shitbag. Not only was this his fourth or fifth time posting reprehensible shit on his public Facebook page, not only did he try to defend himself with a tepid "I know transgender people/I don't think what I posted was political" defense on local sports radio (I live in the greater Boston market and Shilling was one of the players who helped the Red Sox win their first World Series title in 86 years, so everything he does is news around here), but he swindled millions of dollars from the taxpayers of Rhode Island with his failed 38 Studios endeavor.

He's a terrible person.

(April 21, 2016 at 12:05 am)Sterben Wrote:

SteelCurtain Wrote:The problem lies in people creating these opinions about what to do, having clearly no understanding of the issue before forming those opinions. I don't understand why people do this. When these issues started to come to light, the first thing I googled was "what is it like to be trans" and learned about what it really is, from the mouths of people who experience it. Before anyone is allowed to make policy opinions, I think they should at the very least have the human decency learn what it's like (as much as it's possible) from the people who are affected by the policies they are considering.

       Learning and understand a issue always should be considered in the matter of policy, if your making public policy you need to consult professionals who deal with the issues on a everyday basis. As a child I hated sports and still do, that's cause I was taught it was a unneeded venue for men and woman to demonstrate there superiority over others. I still hold the same opinion to this day. As a society we do need to respect woman more and get rid of terms like "Sissy,nancyboy, and no-homo". These words probably will never go away, and terms like faggot, cunt, fag, and gay will never be able be uses properly again cause of society's twists on the words. As a child I was also taught to have the up most respect people who deserve respect. My parents raised quite differently, I was not allowed to play sports either my sister, and to this day I thank them to this day for not letting me.

What? Dude, I really have a hard time following you. Is English not your first language? If this says what I think it says, what does that have to do with what I said, the last part of which I left quoted? That part, believe it or not, was directed specifically at you.

Not sure how to feel about Curt Schilling being fired.

On one hand, you shouldn't be able to just say anything on social media. But on the other, there's many cases of people being fired for little things-- like a teacher who was fired for having a picture of her drinking a glass of wine because it promotes alcohol (Ashley Payne). A daycare worker fired for saying she hates working at daycare.

I think as long as you aren't promoting discrimination--or talk bad about the company-- you shouldn't be fired for what you say on social media. But drawing the line can be difficult. Personally I avoid them because I don't want to be fired for something I say.

Can you be fired if you originally said it with "friends" privacy but someone then leaks it?

Ashley Payne was fired, despite having her status as a 'friends only' status. Someone reported her, just because she had a picture of herself with a glass of wine. Here's the offensive image:



Oh and she also had a private post that used "Bitch" in it. So there was that too.

All it took was an anonymous complaint from one person. Just one. There wasn't a group of parents complaining, just one anonymous email.