(April 4, 2011 at 12:54 am)chatpilot Wrote: Anyway I have said enough on this topic rj so you wont be hearing it from me anymore everyone is entitled to his opinion. I am starting to feel like I am arguing doctrine with a Christian see you on some other subject of contention soon.

If not being you means I am a Christian, then I embrace my Christianity.

Islam is the religion of peace just like Christianity is the religion of love. (Sarcasm)

The Florida pastor is an attention whore. But for the violent nature of the religion he was trying to provoke, he'd be insignificant even in the local news. He has freedom of speech to burn flags or books as he likes but I wonder if he can be held liable in a civil suit by the relatives of those killed in the attacks? His intent was to provoke a violent response but let others put their lives on the line (instead of, as Zen Badger suggested, going there and letting his god protect him). Just a thought.

None of this speculation should be taken to mean that the violent religion of Islam or the murderers involved aren't responsible.

People burn a book.... so, obviously your rational response is to riot and kill people who had nothing to do with burning the book.

Islam once again proves itself to be a pox on humanity.

Once again, you don't see widespread rioting in the US and elsewhere over this.

While the rioting may seem like an overreaction, people are forgetting everything else that that the Afghans have endured and are angry about. Remember that the country has faced years of invasion and exploitation of resources by American soldiers. Thousands of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan, in particular, have been killed in drone strikes and botched operations. It all adds up and the book burning is just an icing on the cake.

It obviously isn't worth killing people who had nothing to do with it, which of course, plays right into the hands of Terry Jones. This is what he wanted. And yet, maybe, he wasn't quite able to satisfy his goal because he may have expected the violence to be even deadlier and wanted a significantly greater number of Muslims to riot over this.

Min and CP
It rally doesn't matter whether God or the Devil told him to do it. He still chose to do it, and is therefore personally liable for the ramifications of his actions. He may claim great rewards in heaven for his actions or a seat next to Satan himself in the afterlife, but that doesn't deal with the here and now or reality much now does it. I say charge him with something under the riot act. If he claims clergy have his license revoked then charge him with insighting a riot and culpable for reckless homicide

(April 4, 2011 at 2:15 pm)Rayaan Wrote: Once again, you don't see widespread rioting in the US and elsewhere over this.

The fact that we see rioting ANYWHERE over this says a lot about the mentality of folks exposed to this religion.

Quote:While the rioting may seem like an overreaction,

"May SEEM like an overreaction"? Someone burns a book, so you kill people who had nothing to do with the book burning? Not to mention the absurdity of even killing the person who burned the book.

Quote:people are forgetting everything else that that the Afghans have endured and are angry about.

So what? How does burning a book justify murder?

Quote:Remember that the country has faced years of invasion and exploitation of resources by American soldiers. Thousands of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan, in particular, have been killed in drone strikes and botched operations. It all adds up and the book burning is just an icing on the cake.

What "exploitation of resources"? And the killing of civilians by drones is annoying, but a book burning sends them over the edge? Yeah, makes sense to me.

Quote:It obviously isn't worth killing people who had nothing to do with it, which of course, plays right into the hands of Terry Jones. This is what he wanted.

And Muslim followers were more than eager to act like barbarians.

Quote:And yet, maybe, he wasn't quite able to satisfy his goal because he may have expected the violence to be even deadlier and wanted a significantly greater number of Muslims to riot over this.

Terry Jones is an asshole. But he didn't kill anybody for burning a book.

Quote:He still chose to do it

You are correct, Tacky. Mainly because there is no god or devil. Only stupid humans who believe that their pile of shit smells better than someone elses.

Generally I agree with what you wrote, Rayaan. However, you might pause to give some thought to the fact that muslims are so easily manipulated into acting like murderous fools by silly gestures like this. It is easy to pull your strings because you DO overreact to bullshit like this.

Someone who refuses to take accountability for his actions is not evidence for or against God, merely the flawed society we live in.

(April 4, 2011 at 2:15 pm)Rayaan Wrote: Once again, you don't see widespread rioting in the US and elsewhere over this.

While the rioting may seem like an overreaction, people are forgetting everything else that that the Afghans have endured and are angry about. Remember that the country has faced years of invasion and exploitation of resources by American soldiers. Thousands of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan, in particular, have been killed in drone strikes and botched operations. It all adds up and the book burning is just an icing on the cake.

It obviously isn't worth killing people who had nothing to do with it, which of course, plays right into the hands of Terry Jones. This is what he wanted. And yet, maybe, he wasn't quite able to satisfy his goal because he may have expected the violence to be even deadlier and wanted a significantly greater number of Muslims to riot over this.

Now, I understand exactly what you are saying..but please dont tell me you think any of this is new. Since when have afcrapistanies NOT been doing things like this? They were doing this crap even when we were helping them fight off the Soviets in the 80's.