The issue of Rİtual Washing (of dead coprses) in Islam

[Leonardo17]

 

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 This is another subject that has started to pose as religion but is anything but religion. I’ve decided to take the time to explain this issue as well as I can without even being an expert on the subject because something similar happened to my parents in 1999. (I’m trying to introduce the reader to the punishment imposed by the IRI on ritual washing of corpse’s punishment on women refusing to cover their hair in the month July of the Anthropocene era). This job is usually done by professionals here. But at that time, when an elderly member of my family passed, this worker (who was very religious) asked that a female member of the family should help her while doing her job. So instead of thanking her and asking her to deliver the dead body of our relative immediately, they decided to give in to her demands and one of my female elderly relative had to volunteer for the job. So I know from second hand information how traumatizing this type of activity can be. And I think that this type of punishment is a violation of basic human rights and I will try to explain here that it’s not a “religious” or “cultural” thing.
 
    I am not against the more civilized western approach to dead bodies. People will arrange that dead body, make it look good to honor the memory of that person and allow friends and relatives to come and say goodbye to that person. But in the East we like to keep it more simple. In the Far East they will cremate you and put you in a jar. In India they will cremate you and throw you in the River Ganga. In Tibet they will cut you to pieces and throw you to vultures. In North Africa they may let the desert deal with you.
   In Islam the main idea is also to keep it simple. But like many Western nations we like the idea of having a grave. That’s because if the person is (for instance) thrown into the sea, subconsciously that person can be perceived as a lost person like seaman lost in their ventures or people who disappear during earthquakes etc. and are never found again. If that happens, close relatives may keep in them the expectation that this person will return someday. So therefore a burial site is almost always a good idea.
   All of the elements in that process is directed toward that. Very religious people here like wooden grave marks rather than stone (because it’s perishable and more humble). To get there we carry the dead in a coffin only to extract them and bury them with a sheet of cloth which is completely biodegradable. The whole “ritual washing” thing is a preparation so that no fluid, blood or whatsoever comes out of the body and cause the one who bury the dead in a sheet of cloth to feel uncomfortable. We even put cotton in some parts of the dead body to avoid that.
   So there is nothing “sacred” about it. This is not a procedure to allow the Kha of the mummy to exit the body or anything like that . It’s not an “opening of the mouth” ceremony. But for the reasons I mentioned in the first paragraph, we have professionals who do those things. That’s because people will get used to it (like people working in the morgue for instance). Close relatives are allowed to do the whole process if they chose to but you cannot force them (for obvious reasons).
   So I really don’t know where they picked up this one to be honest. Another problem is this: That’s my dead body you are talking about. I am fine with a professional person or a close relative doing something like this to my dead body. But I would not really agree for a total stranger who is not a professional to come near my dead body. That’s not how it works. So if I was working in Iran or something like that I would probably have to create a notary approved testament in which I’m asking Iranian authorities to ship my body directly where it came from without doing anything to it
 
And I’m sorry for the length of these posts. But I might be working out some sort of karma here. Sometimes I really don’t understand how people who say they study the scriptures manage to do like everything wrong / like nothing correct in it. Maybe it’s my math teacher from junior high, I really don’t know  
 
Also: This simplicity or keeping the business with the dead to a strict minimum is being interpreted as an obstacle to organ donation. I can assure you that this is not the case. The body that is left behind by the departing individual is simply returning to what it once was. It has no problem or need or anything like that anymore. And there is nothing you need to do either.
 
   But I have come to understand that whatever it is that leaves the body at the moment of death, that thing can be helped in various ways (which I will not elaborate here) and there are ways of doing that according to your religious tradition. So I believe these should be respected as much as possible.
 
   So how about senior members of the IRI taking part in the 40th day religious rituals organized by the friends and relatives of the people whose life they extinguished once a week for every one of them. If they were to be put on some sort of Nuremberg trial someday I think this should be included in their punishment. Since they know all the verses, maybe they could be the ones to recite the verses in these gatherings. Don’t you agree?  

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Post placed in hide tags due to length, since you seem - even after having been instructed in their use - to be unwilling to employ them. I strongly suggest that you begin doing so.

Boru

[arewethereyet]

You simply will not cease with the walls of text, will you?

[WinterHold]

You simply will not cease with the walls of text, will you?

He has a trolling agenda.

[Leonardo17]

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Ok. it's not that complicated. SOrry about that

[Leonardo17]

You simply will not cease with the walls of text, will you?

He has a trolling agenda.

- No. I really don't have that kind of time

[LinuxGal]

That’s my dead body you are talking about. I am fine with a professional person or a close relative doing something like this to my dead body. But I would not really agree for a total stranger who is not a professional to come near my dead body.

The moment of one's death terminates identity.  There is no longer a "my" to have "my body" let alone to agree or disagree with anything.  How we treat the dead is a matter of society's attitude toward decorum and the health and well-being of the ones who remain alive.

[Nay_Sayer]

He has a trolling agenda.

- No. I really don't have that kind of time

Apparently, you do. Thoughts and prayers

[The Grand Nudger]

The way we handle our dead, not religious. Fucking amazing.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

So nothing on washing live corpses? (OR whatever he was talking about in the subject line?)