(July 2, 2016 at 7:05 pm)Spirian Wrote: Makes one wonder whether he believes his own claptrap.

I doubt that he makes money off the ignorant i mean for crying out loud he doesn't believe in demons
while at the same time said jesus exsorcised demons out of people in a debate with Hitchens. 
The guy is a con artist he takes advantage of ignorant people for money he doesn't actually believe in 
any of it.

(July 2, 2016 at 6:56 pm)Gemini Wrote: One of the best moments came when Craig's collaborator, James Sinclair, was forced by Carroll to concede that the Aguirre-Gratton model is perfectly consistent with the BGV theorem, leaving them with only their a priori argument against an actual infinite to support the Kalam.

Thanks for the information!!!  I have been looking for a video of that second debate but have not been able to find it until now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osvglh99kUU


For some unknown reason, it has never showed-up in Yahoo's list of suggested videos, at least for me.

I am glad that you brought-up Craig's "actual infinite" argument, because this is yet another prime example of Craig's hypocrisy and duplicity.  Craig loves to quote singularity theorems, which is basically what BGV is; however, singularities are, of course, regions of space/time that have infinite curvature to them.  In other words, singularities are actual infinities.

(July 2, 2016 at 6:56 pm)Gemini Wrote: I used to listen to them while playing World of Warcraft or Diablo 3[...]

Respect. My two favorite games ever along with Age of Empires 2.

Have you seen this stupid asshole lashing out on prominent atheist writers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14YM7MP6HzY

He call Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins etc. embarrassing as intellectuals. He calls Dawkins' books against God hypothesis embarrassing because "he is not a theologian so he doesn't have an adequate knowledge to dismiss God". Of course this idiot also fails to see that Dawkins is not an astrologer and yet he can deduce that horoscopes are total fraud made for stupid people, just like William Lane Craig himself.
He lashes against Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins... because they're also not philosophers which is his apparent profession, failing to see that Sam Harris is actually a learned philosopher as well.
I mean this shit-head is just rapidly bullshitting stupidities in huge amount that you just don't know where to start and get drowned in them.

His whining voice cuts through me like a knife. I would actually be embarrassed to have him speak for me. #justmyopinion

(July 3, 2016 at 6:29 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Have you seen this stupid asshole lashing out on prominent atheist writers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14YM7MP6HzY

He call Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins etc. embarrassing as intellectuals. He calls Dawkins' books against God hypothesis embarrassing because "he is not a theologian so he doesn't have an adequate knowledge to dismiss God". Of course this idiot also fails to see that Dawkins is not an astrologer and yet he can deduce that horoscopes are total fraud made for stupid people, just like William Lane Craig himself.
He lashes against Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins... because they're also not philosophers which is his apparent profession, failing to see that Sam Harris is actually a learned philosopher as well.
I mean this shit-head is just rapidly bullshitting stupidities in huge amount that you just don't know where to start and get drowned in them.

Note that Craig's PhD is in the Philosophy of Religion and not "philosophy" per se.  Of course, he dismisses the Quran even though he is not a scholar of it and hasn't even read it, and so, once again, Craig has been exposed as being nothing more than a vacuous charlatan.  While i cannot find the reference off hand, Craig, in his debate with Millican, rejected the concept of "zero".

Bit like Kent Hovind with his pretend degree in "Christian Education"; he tends to forget the first part.

Good lawd, I don't know if I'm biased but as far as I've seen theists feel so proud and content and have a smug face when debating ;_; They have the face one has when they think they've utterly destroyed their opponent or someshit.

(July 2, 2016 at 8:13 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I am glad that you brought-up Craig's "actual infinite" argument, because this is yet another prime example of Craig's hypocrisy and duplicity.  Craig loves to quote singularity theorems, which is basically what BGV is; however, singularities are, of course, regions of space/time that have infinite curvature to them.  In other words, singularities are actual infinities.

Did you know he also believes that God is infinite? He rationalizes it by saying that God is "qualitatively" infinite rather than "quantitatively" infinite.

(July 2, 2016 at 11:22 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:

(July 2, 2016 at 6:56 pm)Gemini Wrote: I used to listen to them while playing World of Warcraft or Diablo 3[...]

Respect. My two favorite games ever along with Age of Empires 2.

Oh sweet! I mained a Priest in WoW (main tank healer back in my raiding days) and a Wizard in D3. Played them both WAY too much (over a year game time in WoW).