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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
October 20, 2016 at 10:58 pm
(This post was last modified: October 20, 2016 at 11:00 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
If by "pay attention" you mean openly deride his ideas and try to convince others it's the worst thing they've ever heard....then yeah, sure, lol. Honestly, you can offer the man deference and he'll decline. It's only -barely- on the right side of neurosis. He's absolutely committed to equality with other staff.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
October 20, 2016 at 10:58 pm
(October 20, 2016 at 10:50 pm)Shell B Wrote: People stick up for him and stand by him because he does the sometimes thankless job of keeping this heap running, not because he's a dictator. He deals with the type of bullshit being slung at him here with barely a whisper of complaint. He spends hours of time cleaning up after people who can't handle being an adult on the Internet. He does this all calmly, kindly and with more consideration than people like Thump deserve. Ex-staff and friends know this, so don't think you'll get far ripping into him around this joint. The only power he has is that people like him and are grateful to him. I'm not sure you'll find people are as willing to defend you against him. Good luck, though.
As much as I don't think Thump is being fair to Tibs about the staff stuff, I don't think it's really fair to Thump to say he doesn't deserve kindness and consideration, either. He's a skeptic, he's supportive, and he's die-hard defensive about people he cares about.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
October 20, 2016 at 10:58 pm
(October 20, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Pretty sure the staff can express their own opinions about how the forum should be run without me telling them what to think, thanks.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
October 20, 2016 at 11:00 pm
(October 20, 2016 at 10:41 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: (October 20, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm sure his voice is just one amongst many, given no special accord.
Awww, the thump just wants to feel as though he's special.
He is special - to many of us. And something has got him hooked here but I don't understand what it is. I'd prefer to just give him space to get some perspective. No one is going to change his mind except him.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
October 20, 2016 at 11:00 pm
(October 20, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 20, 2016 at 10:20 pm)Shell B Wrote: Ugh, you're being willfully obtuse. He technically owns it. That means nothing in practice here. He has no additional powers over admins. He could I guess just stop paying the bills and give y'all the finger, but that has nothing to do with this situation.
I'm sure his voice is just one amongst many, given no special accord.
I can say this - I have been on staff since May Day of 2012, excepting a few months hiatus. While Tiberius' voice carries gravitas, he has never vetoed a majority.
His voice, however, is not the only voice with gravitas on staff.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
October 20, 2016 at 11:02 pm
(October 20, 2016 at 10:38 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: (October 20, 2016 at 10:36 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: ...Everyone's an expert on what happens behind the scenes...
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
October 20, 2016 at 11:03 pm
(October 20, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Pretty sure the staff can express their own opinions about how the forum should be run without me telling them what to think, thanks.
I recall once saying something along the lines of "I'm sorry but no that's just stupid". <3
I likely only said that out of fear of you though 
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
October 20, 2016 at 11:03 pm
(October 20, 2016 at 10:50 pm)Shell B Wrote: He does this all calmly, kindly and with more consideration than people like Thump deserve.
Dear me ... that hurts.
Well, not really.
If criticism from a crass and uncouth person is the worst I have to deal with today, meh, it's still a good day.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
October 20, 2016 at 11:06 pm
(October 20, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Pretty sure the staff can express their own opinions about how the forum should be run without me telling them what to think, thanks.
Yeah, there's another strawman.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
October 20, 2016 at 11:06 pm
(October 20, 2016 at 10:58 pm)The_Empress Wrote: (October 20, 2016 at 10:50 pm)Shell B Wrote: People stick up for him and stand by him because he does the sometimes thankless job of keeping this heap running, not because he's a dictator. He deals with the type of bullshit being slung at him here with barely a whisper of complaint. He spends hours of time cleaning up after people who can't handle being an adult on the Internet. He does this all calmly, kindly and with more consideration than people like Thump deserve. Ex-staff and friends know this, so don't think you'll get far ripping into him around this joint. The only power he has is that people like him and are grateful to him. I'm not sure you'll find people are as willing to defend you against him. Good luck, though.
As much as I don't think Thump is being fair to Tibs about the staff stuff, I don't think it's really fair to Thump to say he doesn't deserve kindness and consideration, either. He's a skeptic, he's supportive, and he's die-hard defensive about people he cares about.
It's my personal opinion that he doesn't deserve it. Die-hard or hard headed? The only interactions he's bothered to have with me have been started by him and always negative. I don't have to give him the benefit of the doubt or pretend that I care for anyone to waste time catering to his multi-day whinge fest. The magic of Tibs is that he thinks everyone deserves his consideration. Every single one of you. It drives me nuts. Guy sits here slapping him in the face and he just smirks and says "whatever you think, buddy." No, Thump doesn't deserve Tibs' consideration, but if he were to need it, he would get it. Baffles me.
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