Joker, you're full of shit, you know that, don't you?
Atheists have done 0 (zero) crusades during which have killed 0 (zero) "witches", freethinkers and anyone who opposed the dumb religion.
Christians have done many crusades for 500 years during which they have killed millions of innocent people who didn't want to be slaves to the dumb fuck who ruled the church back then. So if atheists being the victims to those crusades means being evil - then we're proud to be evil.

(November 25, 2016 at 6:42 am)Atheist_BG Wrote: Joker, you're full of shit, you know that, don't you?
Atheists have done 0 (zero) crusades during which have killed 0 (zero) "witches", freethinkers and anyone who opposed the dumb religion.
Christians have done many crusades for 500 years during which they have killed millions of innocent people who didn't want to be slaves to the dumb fuck who ruled the church back then. So if atheists being the victims to those crusades means being evil - then we're proud to be evil.

Don't be an idiot, The crusades was a just war, It was to stop the muslim invasion of europe if there was no crusade you would not exist, we would have lost our women and children and europe would have been conqured by the muslims and be Islamic. Even if you did exist you would be forced to submit to sharia law. They would have killed most of us off, or made us slaves. So think again. It was better when the church ruled as there was less sexual immorality and other disorders in society back then and more people obeyed God back then in the good old days.

(November 25, 2016 at 6:54 am)The Joker Wrote:

(November 25, 2016 at 6:42 am)Atheist_BG Wrote: Joker, you're full of shit, you know that, don't you?
Atheists have done 0 (zero) crusades during which have killed 0 (zero) "witches", freethinkers and anyone who opposed the dumb religion.
Christians have done many crusades for 500 years during which they have killed millions of innocent people who didn't want to be slaves to the dumb fuck who ruled the church back then. So if atheists being the victims to those crusades means being evil - then we're proud to be evil.

Don't be an idiot, The crusades was a just war, It was to stop the muslim invasion of europe if there was no crusade you would not exist, we would have lost our women and children and europe would have been conqured by the muslims and be Islamic. Even if you did exist you would be forced to submit to sharia law. They would have killed most of us off, or made us slaves. So think again. It was better when the church ruled as there was less sexual immorality and other disorders in society back then and more people obeyed God back then.

I know you're a troll, but I'll respond to this idiocy anyway.

What's this "us" shit? If Europe had been conquered by Muslims centuries ago, "you" contemporary believers would have drunk the Islamic Kool-Aid as easily as you have swallowed the Christian brand. "We" skeptics would be the ones dealing with the fallout of Sharia, which "you" would have a hand in imposing.

And if you think the crusades were just, then you don't know jack shit about them. Read up on that first Crusade and then tell us again, with a straight face, about how just it was. If you think the wholesale slaughter of men, women, and children is just, then you are one sick motherfucker. And if you think there was less immorality (sexual or otherwise) in the "good old days" then you are manifestly ignorant of history. Read Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror to get a sense of the good old days of the 14th Century, for instance. You think things are going to hell today? We have nothing on the people who lived through that era.

But yeah, you're just a troll. I'm not speaking to you so much as I am those people who really believe this nonsense and need a reality check.

(November 25, 2016 at 8:28 am)Crossless1 Wrote:

(November 25, 2016 at 6:54 am)The Joker Wrote: Don't be an idiot, The crusades was a just war, It was to stop the muslim invasion of europe if there was no crusade you would not exist, we would have lost our women and children and europe would have been conqured by the muslims and be Islamic. Even if you did exist you would be forced to submit to sharia law. They would have killed most of us off, or made us slaves. So think again. It was better when the church ruled as there was less sexual immorality and other disorders in society back then and more people obeyed God back then.

I know you're a troll, but I'll respond to this idiocy anyway.

What's this "us" shit? If Europe had been conquered by Muslims centuries ago, "you" contemporary believers would have drunk the Islamic Kool-Aid as easily as you have swallowed the Christian brand. "We" skeptics would be the ones dealing with the fallout of Sharia, which "you" would have a hand in imposing.

And if you think the crusades were just, then you don't know jack shit about them. Read up on that first Crusade and then tell us again, with a straight face, about how just it was. If you think the wholesale slaughter of men, women, and children is just, then you are one sick motherfucker. And if you think there was less immorality (sexual or otherwise) in the "good old days" then you are manifestly ignorant of history. Read Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror to get a sense of the good old days of the 14th Century, for instance. You think things are going to hell today? We have nothing on the people who lived through that era.

But yeah, you're just a troll. I'm not speaking to you so much as I am those people who really believe this nonsense and need a reality check.

Learn some history.

If I learn history from an ignorant cunt like you, Troll, I'll be no better off than this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

(November 25, 2016 at 9:08 am)Crossless1 Wrote: If I learn history from an ignorant cunt like you, Troll, I'll be no better off than this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

I'm not offended however you do sin. Why would I trust someone who cusses? No offence, but I think you got your history wrong. The Crusades was a just holy war in defense against the Muslim invasion of the christian territory, Islam was being spread by the sword across the middle east and across north Africa and north east Asia and attempts of invasion of Europe, read history.

(November 25, 2016 at 9:43 am)The Joker Wrote:

(November 25, 2016 at 9:08 am)Crossless1 Wrote: If I learn history from an ignorant cunt like you, Troll, I'll be no better off than this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

I'm not offended however you do sin. Why would I trust someone who cusses? No offence, but I think you got your history wrong. The Crusades was a just holy war in defense against the Muslim invasion of the christian territory, Islam was being spread by the sword across the middle east and across north Africa and north east Asia and attempts of invasion of Europe, read history.

Ostensibly, it was conducted to aid Byzantium against Muslim aggression but soon morphed into a push to re-conquer Jerusalem. The Western church's desire to extend its influence into regions previously beholden to the Eastern Church was also an important factor.

For anyone to pretend that the marauding hordes attached to the first Crusade were anything like pious, disciplined soldiers is laughable. The butchery they visited on civilian populations throughout their journey was horrific. But let's leave aside the Muslims for a moment. Was the extortion, terror, and murder they performed on European Jews during that Crusade also moral? I'm curious to know just how much a cretin you really are. You're offended by cussing but have no problem with mass murder?

Fucking cunt.

Quote:Learn some history.

(November 25, 2016 at 11:01 am)Crossless1 Wrote:

(November 25, 2016 at 9:43 am)The Joker Wrote: I'm not offended however you do sin. Why would I trust someone who cusses? No offence, but I think you got your history wrong. The Crusades was a just holy war in defense against the Muslim invasion of the christian territory, Islam was being spread by the sword across the middle east and across north Africa and north east Asia and attempts of invasion of Europe, read history.

Ostensibly, it was conducted to aid Byzantium against Muslim aggression but soon morphed into a push to re-conquer Jerusalem. The Western church's desire to extend its influence into regions previously beholden to the Eastern Church was also an important factor.

For anyone to pretend that the marauding hordes attached to the first Crusade were anything like pious, disciplined soldiers is laughable. The butchery they visited on civilian populations throughout their journey was horrific. But let's leave aside the Muslims for a moment. Was the extortion, terror, and murder they performed on European Jews during that Crusade also moral? I'm curious to know just how much a cretin you really are. You're offended by cussing but have no problem with mass murder?

Fucking cunt.

Spill your hate somewhere else, there's no way to get around this idiot, oh well, you never learn do ya. \_(ツ)_/

I get why we let religious people post here so that we can have nice adult debates and bring different opinions to the table but ermergerd the amount of them trying to convert us is getting ridiculous. I feel like we should get one good thread where we answer all their questions and any time someone like this comes us and tries this we just post the link to the other one and say been there, done that and then just let them argue with themselves.