(December 17, 2016 at 12:33 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(December 17, 2016 at 12:28 am)Orochi Wrote: agreed there is no two sides in this affair he's murdering jerkoff

Of course there are two sides. What if your family had been murdered by drug dealers? How would you feel then? Also seeing as crime has dropped 30% in the Phillipeans, I think it's possible that you should be less worried about your dad. I'm not one to defend the crop of proto-facists who are cropping up over the world, they are very far from my worldview. However to say there aren't two sides to this story translates as: I'm too lazy to look into the other side.

Besides, Obama and every US president for the last 50 years has been responsible for far more global murder and mayhem then Duterte could dream of.

I'll set aside your straw men and say that perhaps you need to look beyond a few sound bites about Duterte. Do you have any idea how corrupt the government and authorities are in the Philippines? Do you not believe in due process, even for the impoverished? I'm guessing not. If that's the case, it's a short step to the police and The Man (government) playing judge, jury and executioner all rolled into one in the dead of night.

(December 17, 2016 at 12:40 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(December 17, 2016 at 12:37 am)paulpablo Wrote: I agree with what people are saying about celebrity news and I think that's a trend that's got out of hand.
In England it's got to the level of insanity where it's literally news worthy if a female celebrity leaves the house without make up and still looks good. It's not like she suddenly looks like a mutant without make up either she just looks like a good looking celebrity but not in make up.

As for the media reporting more on local news and local acts of terrorism then yeh that's obvious because it's more of a direct threat to us and our family.
The BBC is going to cover attacks on the british more than America and American media is going to cover more American things and African media will cover more African things.

I think that most people need to ignore the true horror that is going on in the world, that way they can continue to believe that their lives are hard, and can be made less hard if only they buy more things. If people really knew and were connected with all the true suffering that goes on in the world, they might stop consuming a bunch of needless crap and actually do something with their lives.

I don't think it makes much difference.

I've seen videos of homeless people being beaten to death with hammers, middle easterners executed with machine guns, broken bones mashed up flesh, hands cut off with knifes, I've seen a man being stabbed to death then the person has sex with him once he's died.
After watching I'd usually just have a nap or get something to eat.
I'm not the world police.
I know messed up stuff goes on and I could carry on watching people get blown up killed and raped all day but most times I'd rather watch comedy or something.

(December 17, 2016 at 12:41 am)Tres Leches Wrote:

(December 17, 2016 at 12:33 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Of course there are two sides. What if your family had been murdered by drug dealers? How would you feel then? Also seeing as crime has dropped 30% in the Phillipeans, I think it's possible that you should be less worried about your dad. I'm not one to defend the crop of proto-facists who are cropping up over the world, they are very far from my worldview. However to say there aren't two sides to this story translates as: I'm too lazy to look into the other side.

Besides, Obama and every US president for the last 50 years has been responsible for far more global murder and mayhem then Duterte could dream of.

I'll set aside your straw men and say that perhaps you need to look beyond a few sound bites about Duterte. Do you have any idea how corrupt the government and authorities are in the Philippines? Do you not believe in due process, even for the impoverished? I'm guessing not. If that's the case, it's a short step to the police and The Man (government) playing judge, jury and executioner all rolled into one in the dead of night.

Duterte is my personal obsession right now, I read as much as I can about him from multiple perspectives and have listened to just about every long interview that's in english or has been translated, so you can do us both a favor and not use the 'I know so much more then you, and if you only knew what I did then you'd agree with me card' It's a bunch of shit. I don't support him, which I explicitly said and you ignored. All I said is that there is multiple sides to his story.

Screaming that there is only one point of view is saying that it's better to be close minded then consider different sides of the argument. Why is it that this type of argument, which is itself a logical fallacy always starts with someone saying something like 'strawman' even though:
A. It's not.
B. You misrepresented my points of view

Seems to me that extrajudicial punishments are never good for a society in the long run.

(December 17, 2016 at 12:33 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(December 17, 2016 at 12:28 am)Orochi Wrote: agreed there is no two sides in this affair he's murdering jerkoff

Of course there are two sides. What if your family had been murdered by drug dealers? How would you feel then? Also seeing as crime has dropped 30% in the Phillipeans, I think it's possible that you should be less worried about your dad. I'm not one to defend the crop of proto-facists who are cropping up over the world, they are very far from my worldview. However to say there aren't two sides to this story translates as: I'm too lazy to look into the other side.

Besides, Obama and every US president for the last 50 years has been responsible for far more global murder and mayhem then Duterte could dream of.

I would still still believe in fucking due process because I have had family members murdered I still believed the killer deserved a fair trial because my personal feelings aren't justice. As for crime rates are you honestly arguing the ends justify the means. And I don't care if you support them or not it's irrelevant and once again there is no two sides he's evil he uses evil means to achieve his goals that's the only thing in dispute .As for Obama you just love red herrings don't you