BTW, divvying up a body into 12 pieces . . .

ok, head = 1

each arm is 2 for a total of 5 so far

2 each leg, so 9 now.


Would we conclude we're right so far and the torso was then trisected ?

Scripture is silent on the matter, and I'm sure most of our readers are way ahead of me now:











who got the piece with the boobies ?

(February 2, 2017 at 11:10 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/...t-and.html

I don't know if anybody has mentioned these but-Lot offers his daughter to be gang raped (it doesn't happen) A Levite offers his concubine to be gang raped, she is most likely raped to death, then he cuts her into 12 pieces and sends those pieces to the 12 tribes of Israel.

(February 1, 2017 at 3:28 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Judges 19 is pretty brutal

(February 3, 2017 at 3:53 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote:

(February 2, 2017 at 11:10 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/...t-and.html

I don't know if anybody has mentioned these but-Lot offers his daughter to be gang raped (it doesn't happen) A Levite offers his concubine to be gang raped, she is most likely raped to death, then he cuts her into 12 pieces and sends those pieces to the 12 tribes of Israel.

(February 1, 2017 at 3:28 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Judges 19 is pretty brutal

Judges chapter 19 is the most disgusting book in the Bible.  It's a real horror story.  But it's a story about hospitality and a replay of similar ones involving Abraham and Lot.  

Remember, the guy was traveling but he refused to stay in a Gentile city.  He continued on until he reached an Israelite (Benjamite) town.  According to the rules of hospitality in the Jewish Babylonian Talmud people should have been eager to invite him into their homes and to take care of his needs.  They didn't.  

Then an old man saw them and took them to his house and took care of them although they had their own supplies.  

As they were having fun the thug crowd showed up (like in Lot's case) and wanted to screw the visitor.  At that point the old man offered up his virgin daughter and the man's concubine.  In the Jewish Babylonian Talmud a Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old (Sanhedrin 54b).  The crowd rapes the woman.  The man finds out that she's dead and cuts her up into twelve pieces and sends them throughout all the territory of Israel.  

The important thing to remember is that the guy wasn't really upset that his woman was raped.  They sent her out for that purpose.  He wasn't too upset that she died.  He was pissed that the townspeople had violated the rules of hospitality.  That was an insult against God and had to be punished.

(February 2, 2017 at 11:37 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote:

(February 2, 2017 at 11:28 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: hey, concubine !!!

pull yourself together !!!

An apologist might say the Levite was an evil man doing an evil thing, but the scripture says Lot is a just and righteous man right before he offers his daughter to be gang raped in place of angels (that he didn't know were angels.)

Lot's family, as depicted in the bible, is completely fucked up. His daughters effectively rohypnoled him, before raping him. The only sane on was his wife and she got turned to a pillar of salt.

(February 3, 2017 at 1:45 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:

(February 2, 2017 at 11:37 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: An apologist might say the Levite was an evil man doing an evil thing, but the scripture says Lot is a just and righteous man right before he offers his daughter to be gang raped in place of angels (that he didn't know were angels.)

Lot's family, as depicted in the bible, is completely fucked up. His daughters effectively rohypnoled him, before raping him. The only sane on was his wife and she got turned to a pillar of salt.

Don't forget that salt is used to preserve food and was used in rituals as a purification item.  So when Lot's wife was turned into salt it signifies that she was free of sin and was spared participation in the subsequent sinful acts committed by Lot and her daughters.

(February 3, 2017 at 1:45 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:

(February 2, 2017 at 11:37 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: An apologist might say the Levite was an evil man doing an evil thing, but the scripture says Lot is a just and righteous man right before he offers his daughter to be gang raped in place of angels (that he didn't know were angels.)

Lot's family, as depicted in the bible, is completely fucked up. His daughters effectively rohypnoled him, before raping him. The only sane on was his wife and she got turned to a pillar of salt.

I'd read the story before but for some reason my brain attributed the "get daddy drunk so he can give us babies" thing to another time period in the bible. But you're absolutely right. On Hugo and Jake they talk about how they would have to be ovulating at the same time, alcohol dilates blood vessels-including in the happy area, he was an old man etc.

(February 3, 2017 at 3:59 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(February 3, 2017 at 1:45 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: Lot's family, as depicted in the bible, is completely fucked up. His daughters effectively rohypnoled him, before raping him. The only sane on was his wife and she got turned to a pillar of salt.

Don't forget that salt is used to preserve food and was used in rituals as a purification item.  So when Lot's wife was turned into salt it signifies that she was free of sin and was spared participation in the subsequent sinful acts committed by Lot and her daughters.

They were told by God not to look back, and she looked back.  I'm pretty sure it wasn't because God was trying to spare her from sin.

(February 1, 2017 at 4:08 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I think Moses did it twice.

No?


Sunday school was 50 years ago for me . . . .

It seems that Moses carried the stone tablet three times.  

In Exodus 24:12 God tells Moses to come up to him on the mountain and that God will give him tablets of stone that has the law and commandments written on them. Then in Exodus 31:18 God gives Moses the stone tablets.  In Exodus 32:15 Moses zips down the mountain carrying the stone tablets and in Exodus 32:19 he broke them.

Then in Exodus 34:1 God tells Moses to chip out a new set of stone tablets and to lug them back up the mountain for engraving (Exodus 34:4).  After forty days and forty nights without food or drink Moses ambles back down the mountain with the stone tablets in his hands.

Despite reading the story numerous times I thought that Moses had carried the stone tablets four times.  He only carried them three times. Down, up, down.

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What about the one in Deuteronomy 25:11-12 where a woman is not allowed to interfere on the side of her man in a fight?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 (MSG) = "When two men are in a fight and the wife of the one man, trying to rescue her husband, grabs the genitals of the man hitting him, you are to cut off her hand. Show no pity."

(February 2, 2017 at 7:50 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Are we defining 'atrocities in the Bible' as mentions of bitter herb abortifacients too ?

[snicker]

(Imagining Christer heads detonating like popcorn trying to noodle that out)

?

GC

(February 3, 2017 at 4:40 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Judges chapter 19 is the most disgusting book in the Bible.  It's a real horror story.  But it's a story about hospitality and a replay of similar ones involving Abraham and Lot.  

Remember, the guy was traveling but he refused to stay in a Gentile city.  He continued on until he reached an Israelite (Benjamite) town.  According to the rules of hospitality in the Jewish Babylonian Talmud people should have been eager to invite him into their homes and to take care of his needs.  They didn't.  

Then an old man saw them and took them to his house and took care of them although they had their own supplies.  

As they were having fun the thug crowd showed up (like in Lot's case) and wanted to screw the visitor.  At that point the old man offered up his virgin daughter and the man's concubine.  In the Jewish Babylonian Talmud a Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old (Sanhedrin 54b).  The crowd rapes the woman.  The man finds out that she's dead and cuts her up into twelve pieces and sends them throughout all the territory of Israel.  

The important thing to remember is that the guy wasn't really upset that his woman was raped.  They sent her out for that purpose.  He wasn't too upset that she died.  He was pissed that the townspeople had violated the rules of hospitality.  That was an insult against God and had to be punished.

No you're totally misinterpreting that passage and taking it out of context. I already schooled you atheist folk on another thread. Here's the proper interpretation:

I think this passage pretty much speaks for itself in that it is about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I mean, hello, the men "Stood at the door and knocked." The concubine was raped to death, which sounds a lot like "My cup runneth over" because Jesus had to drink his "cup of suffering." The concubine (a whore) had her corpse dismembered and sent out to the 12 tribes of Israel, symbolic of how Jesus is a whore because he loves us all and then after he died his gospel was spread throughout the whole world. The Levite offering up his concubine to a viscous mob is a symbol of God offering up Jesus to a viscous mob.

Jesus stands at the door and knocks. Open the door so he might come in and rape you to death. He wants to rape you to death in a spiritual sense.

Checkmate, atheists.