(July 11, 2011 at 12:50 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Please tell me that's not Dayton, OH? I always thought that Ohio, while full of right-wingers, wasn't as hickish as these people are. I really wish some atheist or liberal Christian parent would sue the school to get this crap stopped. He's just teaching the "goddidit" version of biology and is helping to dumb down our nation.

I dont think america needs any help dumbing down. Its doing just fine at that.

Sounds like kentucky...? [BURDETTE] *Adam's Apple moves up and down* It dun mik sence, it not be pruven. Us has 2 b putt heir buy sum suppanaturil ting...dur nu pruf fur it? Ders Nuh Wai.
[CLETUS] *Moving hands as if he knows what he is talking about* U gut yur suppanturil wich wuld b gawd, he atualy *stutter* he sid dat h3 putt we hur an den putt al di animuls an plans n stoofs ter maik us surfive?
[Teacher] Your ideas are trash, I don't want to hear em'. Dunt u know u being 1 of those hicky hillbillys believing all that religious stuff. I couldn't do it.
[DALE] We dudn't lik ivolve frum anyting dat dudnt mik ani since. How cun lik an NIGGER pursun ivolve frum a white purson, wur diffurint skins.

Looks like we got a Nostradamus on our hands...? 127 seconds with the teacher in the room with the students even made him unable to construct a sentence.

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They haven't taught us evolution yet, but I can't wait to here what the teacher has to say...? Can't be as bad as these kids.

Lets not make the mistake that creationism is a uniquely American phenomenon because it isn't. There are creationists worldwide that want nothing more than to spread their creationist beliefs in the classroom if they had their own way. Not because of some evil plot they hatch but because they are absolutely 100% certain that their version of what happened is completely accurate and that the ToE is harmful to the childrens development.

This is a very serious matter and to have science teachers that teach the ToE only because they have to by law is not helping the situation because I have no doubt the quality of teaching is suffering for it.

(July 13, 2011 at 4:31 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Lets not make the mistake that creationism is a uniquely American phenomenon because it isn't. There are creationists worldwide that want nothing more than to spread their creationist beliefs in the classroom if they had their own way. Not because of some evil plot they hatch but because they are absolutely 100% certain that their version of what happened is completely accurate and that the ToE is harmful to the childrens development.

This is a very serious matter and to have science teachers that teach the ToE only because they have to by law is not helping the situation because I have no doubt the quality of teaching is suffering for it.

But americans like to spread the stupid they send missionaies all over the planet and pour money into teaching creationism in schools even in secular england.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2006/n...e.religion

Quote:Dozens of schools are using creationist teaching materials condemned by the government as "not appropriate to support the science curriculum", the Guardian has learned.

The packs promote the creationist alternative to Darwinian evolution called intelligent design and the group behind them said 59 schools are using the information as "a useful classroom resource".

A teacher at one of the schools said it intended to use the DVDs to present intelligent design as an alternative to Darwinism. Nick Cowan, head of chemistry at Bluecoat school, in Liverpool, said: "Just because it takes a negative look at Darwinism doesn't mean it is not science. I think to critique Darwinism is quite appropriate."

But the government has made it clear that "neither intelligent design nor creationism are recognised scientific theories". The chairman of the parliamentary science and technology select committee, the Lib Dem MP Phil Willis, said he was horrified that the packs were being used in schools.

"I am flabbergasted that any head of science would give credence to this creationist theory and be prepared to put it alongside Darwinism," he said. "Treating it as an alternative centralist theory alongside Darwinism in science lessons is deeply worrying."

The teaching pack, which includes two DVDs and a manual, was sent to the head of science at all secondary schools in the country on September 18 by the group Truth in Science. The enclosed feedback postcard was returned by 89 schools. As well as 59 positive responses, 15 were negative or dismissive and 15 said the material was "not suitable".

"We are not attacking the teaching of Darwinian theory," said Richard Buggs, a member of Truth in Science. "We are just saying that criticisms of Darwin's theory should also be taught."

"Intelligent design looks at empirical evidence in the natural world and says, 'this is evidence for a designer'. If you go any further the argument does become religious and intelligent design does have religious implications," added Dr Buggs.

But leading scientists argue that ID is not science because it invokes supernatural causes. "There is just no evidence for intelligent design, it is pure religion and has nothing to do with science. It should be banned from science classes," said Lewis Wolpert, a developmental biologist at the University of London and vice-president of the British Humanist Association.

The DVDs were produced in America and feature figures linked to the Discovery Institute in Seattle, a thinktank that has made concerted efforts to promote ID and insert it into high school science lessons in the US. Last year a judge in Dover, Pennsylvania, ruled that ID could not be taught in science lessons. "Intelligent design is a religious view, a mere relabelling of creationism, and not a scientific theory," he wrote in his judgment.

It is not clear exactly how many schools are using the Truth in Science material, or how it is being used.

The government has made it clear the Truth in Science materials should not be used in science lessons. In a response to the Labour MP Graham Stringer on November 1, Jim Knight, a minister in the Department for Education and Skills, wrote: "Neither intelligent design nor creationism are recognised scientific theories and they are not included in the science curriculum."

Andy McIntosh, a professor of thermodynamics at the University of Leeds who is on the board of Truth in Science, said: "We are just simply a group of people who have put together ... a different case."

Mind you, though, the Italians, French, Spaniards and English started the trend of spreading the disease: Otherwise, the US wouldn't exist as it does.

(July 9, 2011 at 10:14 am)Rhythm Wrote: Krisk, i think you've forgotten about the entirety of the orthodox muslim world. Not exactly an insignificant slice of the population pie.

Uhhhh, a higher percentage of Iranians college students educated under the auspices of the Ayatollahs believe in evolution than natively educated students in American colleges.

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(July 13, 2011 at 12:35 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Mind you, though, the Italians, French, Spaniards and English started the trend of spreading the disease: Otherwise, the US wouldn't exist as it does.

Yes, but they are in remission. We are currently the most prolific spreader of the plague. Rank the Christian denominations by it's virulence and contagiousness. How many of the top ten was incubated in the culture of American evangelical insipidity?

Top ten historically?

(July 13, 2011 at 4:18 am)MilesTailsPrower Wrote: Sounds like kentucky...?

They said Dayton in the clip, and as far as I can tell the only Dayton is in Ohio. Unless I heard it wrong.

There is a Dayton, Oregon, and (this is one I would suspect as a likely suspect), a Dayton, Texas as well.

The most sickening thing about the video is that the so-called "science teacher" allows and promotes the fucking ridiculous proposition that evolution is "just a theory" (as if it were just a hunch, or something that needs to be proven). If he has any science background at all, he knows damn well that "theory" in scientific terminology does not mean the same thing as it does in non-scientific terms. The first thing that any science teacher should teach, when discussing ANY scientific theory, is exactly what the term means when used by scientists, i.e., that a scientific theory is a well-documented explanation of FACTS, and is as near to "proven" as anything in science can be.

These fucking christian hillbilly shitwits give all of America a bad name.