(May 13, 2017 at 9:27 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I'm already calm.

And I'm having way too much fun to be losing.

It is well known that those who swear or side with the swearer can not possibly keep calm.
Their mind is engaged in something out of the normal so you lie and liar are loser.

Fail again son.  

Oh noes! Poor Hammy. Oh well, if he really set his mind to it I'm sure he could pass all of Rik's tests. That surely would be the meaning of enlightenment.[/sarcasm]

The moment you pass a Rik test, you are pretty much out there, I am afraid

(May 13, 2017 at 9:43 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(May 13, 2017 at 9:27 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I'm already calm.

And I'm having way too much fun to be losing.

It is well known that those who swear or side with the swearer can not possibly keep calm.
Their mind is engaged in something out of the normal so you lie and liar are loser.

Fail again son.  

I didn't fail. I'm objectively right.

You however...

(May 13, 2017 at 9:53 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote:

(May 13, 2017 at 9:43 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is well known that those who swear or side with the swearer can not possibly keep calm.
Their mind is engaged in something out of the normal so you lie and liar are loser.

Fail again son.  

I didn't fail. I'm objectively right.

You however...

You certainly failed son.
By saying.......I didn't fail. I'm objectively right..........you judge yourself and that doesn't make it......objectively right.

The meaning of objectively is..........neutrally.......with impartiality.......and.....disinterestedly which is not your case.

Fail again son.  

My saying I'm objectively right doesn't make me objectively right. I'm just pointing out that I'm objectively right.

This thread. It makes me sad.

(May 13, 2017 at 3:41 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: This thread.  It makes me sad.

I feel you.  It hurts our smart.

(May 1, 2017 at 10:32 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) In the existence of this universe of ours in which order the fundamental factors came.
The matter, the water, the light-energy, the air or the space?
(Did the matter came first or last and what about the other factors?)

Existence doesn't come in five 'factors' or 'elements' so your question is nonsense.  Existence comes in two forms, energy and matter.  Matter comes in several different states including liquid and solid.  If you can't get those basics correct, then you're a hopelessly stupid twat.

(May 3, 2017 at 9:19 am)Little Rik Wrote: Suppose you want to use a computer.
First of all you got to buy a computer after that you got to make all connection after that you got to switch  
on the computer and only after that you got to open your eyes and there you are using a computer.
The existence of the 5 elements that compose the universe are in sequential order for the same reason.
They just follow the same logic.  

The universe is sequenced like the parts of a computer?  So that means the universe has a keyboard and a mouse and a monitor.  WRONG.

You stupid cluck.  Even if I were to accept that the universe was created in a certain sequence, it wouldn't matter because the order of the creation of the universe has no specific meaning.  It's just useless information.  When they build a car, they first construct a chassis, then an engine, then the interior, then the body.  That these parts are assembled in that order tells you nothing special about the parts or about the whole.

(May 3, 2017 at 9:19 am)Little Rik Wrote: The human body offer the solution but because you don't bother to look within you fail in understanding how the whole system works.
The mind control the body and in a sequential order the glands that control different parts of the body
are located from top to bottom.

That the glands are located in space in a particular way tells you nothing about the function any such ordering might have.  In this case, the "ordering" is a bunch of whacky bullshit from Hindu metapysics having to do with Chakras and kundalini, neither of which are known to exist.  You might just as well have said the glands are located in a specific order side-to-side for all that their location matters.  It doesn't.  

(May 3, 2017 at 9:19 am)Little Rik Wrote:

And this "diagram" is supposed to mean what exactly?  I can draw pretty circles too.

(May 9, 2017 at 9:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: By looking at the energy centers of the human body as I did indicated to you

The human body doesn't have "energy centers."  It has glands, whose function and location means nothing.  Your calling them energy centers and claiming that there is some relationship between their location in space and the existence of the universe is just so much unsupported woo.

(May 9, 2017 at 9:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: you should have understood  that as they work in the human body they also work in the universe therefore one come first and the others follow.

I "should have" done no such thing, because there was no reason for doing such a thing.  All you've given me is a bunch of metaphysical bull about the order of the glands in the human body.  It's pure assertion without reason.  There's no reason the glands being located where they are has anything to do with any so-called sequence of creation of the universe (for which you have no evidence).

(May 9, 2017 at 9:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: Not only that but because these energy centers in the human bodies are controlled by a mind also the universal body must be controlled by a mind.  
This last point however would automatically come in the mind of any smart chap.  

That one thing is "like" another thing in several particulars, even if true, does not indicate that the two are alike in all ways.  Even if the universe were in some way similar to the body, it would not show that it is like the body in ALL ways.  Do you have any evidence that the universe has a mind?  No you don't.  What you have is an ANALOGY, and an analogy isn't evidence.  A car and a tricycle both have wheels, a seat, and a steering column.  That does not mean that a tricycle also has an engine like a car.  That would require showing actual evidence of the engine.  So the claim that the universe has a mind is unsupported.

(May 9, 2017 at 9:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: First because you deny the evidence that the centers of energy exist in the human bodies and as they are

What evidence?  You've asserted the glands are energy centers.  That isn't providing evidence.  That's just asserting that it's true.  And it's not.  The glands are not "energy centers" in the sense of the classic Chakras.  If you mean they are centers of chemical energy, then a big "Duh."  That doesn't make them Chakras, it doesn't validate kundalini, and where they are located in the human body is as meaningless as where the clothes in my closet are arranged.

(May 9, 2017 at 9:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: arranged in a particular place or way in the human bodies the same apply in the universe therefore a mind also exist to control the whole universe.

You keep coming back to this (primarily because you're a disordered twat).  First of all, the five 'elements' aren't arranged in the universe in the same way that the glands are arranged in the body.  (Duh.)  What you presumably mean is that the 'elements' of the universe are arranged in a TEMPORAL ORDER that is the same as the PHYSICAL ORDER of the glands in the body (assuming they are arranged in reverse of the order of development of kundalini, which relates to a completely different concept of Chakra).   First question to ask is, "Why?"  Why should an arbitrarily chosen PHYSICAL ORDER be mapped to an unproven TEMPORAL ORDER?  Why?

Your basic logic in all of this has been that if two things are 'alike' in some ways, then they are 'alike' in all ways. This is faulty logic and makes your entire parade of 'evidence' nothing but a bunch of woo infected twaddle.

(May 14, 2017 at 4:56 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(May 1, 2017 at 10:32 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) In the existence of this universe of ours in which order the fundamental factors came.
The matter, the water, the light-energy, the air or the space?
(Did the matter came first or last and what about the other factors?)

Existence doesn't come in five 'factors' or 'elements' so your question is nonsense.  Existence comes in two forms, energy and matter.  Matter comes in several different states including liquid and solid.  If you can't get those basics correct, then you're a hopelessly stupid twat.

(May 3, 2017 at 9:19 am)Little Rik Wrote: Suppose you want to use a computer.
First of all you got to buy a computer after that you got to make all connection after that you got to switch  
on the computer and only after that you got to open your eyes and there you are using a computer.
The existence of the 5 elements that compose the universe are in sequential order for the same reason.
They just follow the same logic.  

The universe is sequenced like the parts of a computer?  So that means the universe has a keyboard and a mouse and a monitor.  WRONG.

You stupid cluck.  Even if I were to accept that the universe was created in a certain sequence, it wouldn't matter because the order of the creation of the universe has no specific meaning.  It's just useless information.  When they build a car, they first construct a chassis, then an engine, then the interior, then the body.  That these parts are assembled in that order tells you nothing special about the parts or about the whole.

(May 3, 2017 at 9:19 am)Little Rik Wrote: The human body offer the solution but because you don't bother to look within you fail in understanding how the whole system works.
The mind control the body and in a sequential order the glands that control different parts of the body
are located from top to bottom.

That the glands are located in space in a particular way tells you nothing about the function any such ordering might have.  In this case, the "ordering" is a bunch of whacky bullshit from Hindu metapysics having to do with Chakras and kundalini, neither of which are known to exist.  You might just as well have said the glands are located in a specific order side-to-side for all that their location matters.  It doesn't.  

(May 3, 2017 at 9:19 am)Little Rik Wrote:

And this "diagram" is supposed to mean what exactly?  I can draw pretty circles too.

(May 9, 2017 at 9:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: By looking at the energy centers of the human body as I did indicated to you

The human body doesn't have "energy centers."  It has glands, whose function and location means nothing.  Your calling them energy centers and claiming that there is some relationship between their location in space and the existence of the universe is just so much unsupported woo.

(May 9, 2017 at 9:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: you should have understood  that as they work in the human body they also work in the universe therefore one come first and the others follow.

I "should have" done no such thing, because there was no reason for doing such a thing.  All you've given me is a bunch of metaphysical bull about the order of the glands in the human body.  It's pure assertion without reason.  There's no reason the glands being located where they are has anything to do with any so-called sequence of creation of the universe (for which you have no evidence).

(May 9, 2017 at 9:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: Not only that but because these energy centers in the human bodies are controlled by a mind also the universal body must be controlled by a mind.  
This last point however would automatically come in the mind of any smart chap.  

That one thing is "like" another thing in several particulars, even if true, does not indicate that the two are alike in all ways.  Even if the universe were in some way similar to the body, it would not show that it is like the body in ALL ways.  Do you have any evidence that the universe has a mind?  No you don't.  What you have is an ANALOGY, and an analogy isn't evidence.  A car and a tricycle both have wheels, a seat, and a steering column.  That does not mean that a tricycle also has an engine like a car.  That would require showing actual evidence of the engine.  So the claim that the universe has a mind is unsupported.

(May 9, 2017 at 9:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: First because you deny the evidence that the centers of energy exist in the human bodies and as they are

What evidence?  You've asserted the glands are energy centers.  That isn't providing evidence.  That's just asserting that it's true.  And it's not.  The glands are not "energy centers" in the sense of the classic Chakras.  If you mean they are centers of chemical energy, then a big "Duh."  That doesn't make them Chakras, it doesn't validate kundalini, and where they are located in the human body is as meaningless as where the clothes in my closet are arranged.

(May 9, 2017 at 9:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: arranged in a particular place or way in the human bodies the same apply in the universe therefore a mind also exist to control the whole universe.

You keep coming back to this (primarily because you're a disordered twat).  First of all, the five 'elements' aren't arranged in the universe in the same way that the glands are arranged in the body.  (Duh.)  What you presumably mean is that the 'elements' of the universe are arranged in a TEMPORAL ORDER that is the same as the PHYSICAL ORDER of the glands in the body (assuming they are arranged in reverse of the order of development of kundalini, which relates to a completely different concept of Chakra).   First question to ask is, "Why?"  Why should an arbitrarily chosen PHYSICAL ORDER be mapped to an unproven TEMPORAL ORDER?  Why?

Your basic logic in all of this has been that if two things are 'alike' in some ways, then they are 'alike' in all ways.  This is faulty logic and makes your entire parade of 'evidence' nothing but a bunch of woo infected twaddle.

FOOL.  

The matter lie in a very deep stage of slumber.
There is no sign of any consciousness activity even if a latent or dormant consciousness is there
that is why the matter come last.
The fact that plants sprung up from the matter (soil) is a clear signal that from the slumber a small
awake take place and as soon as the consciousness awake more and more, plants are no longer able to
contain this consciousness and will need a better medium to express herself such as an animal body.
From here as the consciousness awake even more it will need a better medium and a human body is the
answer.
But the journey continue even more because the consciousness is not yet satisfied.
She is not happy with limitations of any kind and the only way to satisfy her lie in the unlimited which
means to go back in the mind where this consciousness originally came from.

To fully understand how the system works you have to understand the cycle of creation.
From 100% consciousness to less and less consciousness into space, air, energy-light, water and matter.
So in the matter the consciousness is latent or dormant and therefore lie at the very bottom.

Wrong once again Yog.