drfuzzy quote-  If you want to be funny, cut out the slimeball preechur act and tell a freaking JOKE..
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Thanks mate, see if this one tickles you..-
An atheist falls over a cliff at night but grabs a bush halfway down and begins calling for help.
Suddenly the whole area is bathed in a golden glow and a choir of angels hovers around, and a great voice booms out from above- "Let go my son and I will catch you"
"Who are you?" asks the atheist.
"I am the Lord God Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end!""
"Help, help" shouts the atheist, "is there anybody else up there?"

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drfuzzy quote- take your imaginary friend and go like him all you want. I don't want to know about it.
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Oh mate you disappoint me, where's your scientific curiosity?
Jesus said he was an alien with awesome powers who'd come to tell us a few things.
Hey Spock will you listen to JC?

"Affirmative, I'm all ears"

(July 24, 2017 at 8:01 pm)Dropship Wrote: drfuzzy quote-  If you want to be funny, cut out the slimeball preechur act and tell a freaking JOKE..
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Thanks mate, see if this one tickles you..-
An atheist falls over a cliff at night but grabs a bush halfway down and begins calling for help.
Suddenly the whole area is bathed in a golden glow and a choir of angels hovers around, and a great voice booms out from above- "Let go my son and I will catch you"
"Who are you?" asks the atheist.
"I am the Lord God Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end!""
"Help, help" shouts the atheist, "is there anybody else up there?"

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drfuzzy quote- take your imaginary friend and go like him all you want. I don't want to know about it.
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Oh mate you disappoint me, where's your scientific curiosity?
Jesus said he was an alien with awesome powers who'd come to tell us a few things.
Hey Spock will you listen to JC?

"Affirmative, I'm all ears"

Then why didn't he say anything useful or come up with something no one else ever thought of?

Also your joke sucked. A real atheist would conclude that they're most likely hallucinating and therefore that they're not actually falling either, so they'd let go, but also tell Yahweh to go buttfuck a sea urchin on the off-chance he was real because they know what a fucked-up monster he is and an eternity in hell is no worse than one in the presence of that evil dictator. They would have no reason to think there's anyone else up there to call to for help, or even if there was, they'd all be huge assholes like Yahweh anyway.

(July 22, 2017 at 5:32 pm)Dropship Wrote:

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(July 22, 2017 at 2:02 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: ..Ol' asshole Yahweh was so far "apart" that nobody could prove he didn't ever exist...

Guys, guys, I keep asking you exactly why  you don't like JC, was it something he said or did that ruffles your feathers?
When am I gonna get a straight answer around here?

Other than the fact that no one knows what he said or did, or if he actually existed as portrayed, not much.

Dropship Wrote:Guys, guys, I keep asking you exactly why  you don't like JC, was it something he said or did that ruffles your feathers?
When am I gonna get a straight answer around here?

Telling you that we don't have a problem with Jesus as a person IS a straight answer. Either he's made-up and all of his words are really someone else's, or he's real and we don't know which words attributed to him are his and which were put in his mouth by writers. Either way, we have no reason to be mad at Jesus as a person, if he was a person. Some people's conception of Jesus, and some of the people who claim to represent him, on the other hand, don't make him look too good. Maybe Jesus was an asshole, but we can't KNOW if he was an asshole. Maybe he was the most lovely person in the middle east in the 1st century, but we can't KNOW that either, I'm afraid.

Whoever first told the Parable of the Good Samaritan, I like it. Whoever told the parable about beating slaves, I don't like it. I don't know if either or both came from a 1st century rabbi named Yeshua who got in trouble with the Romans. Crucifixion is a hard way to go that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

(July 25, 2017 at 10:21 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:

Dropship Wrote:Guys, guys, I keep asking you exactly why  you don't like JC, was it something he said or did that ruffles your feathers?
When am I gonna get a straight answer around here?

Telling you that we don't have a problem with Jesus as a person IS a straight answer. Either he's made-up and all of his words are really someone else's, or he's real and we don't know which words attributed to him are his and which were put in his mouth by writers. Either way, we have no reason to be mad at Jesus as a person, if he was a person. Some people's conception of Jesus, and some of the people who claim to represent him, on the other hand, don't make him look too good. Maybe Jesus was an asshole, but we can't KNOW if he was an asshole. Maybe he was the most lovely person in the middle east in the 1st century, but we can't KNOW that either, I'm afraid.

Whoever first told the Parable of the Good Samaritan, I like it. Whoever told the parable about beating slaves, I don't like it. I don't know if either or both came from a 1st century rabbi named Yeshua who got in trouble with the Romans. Crucifixion is a hard way to go that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

For me, since Jesus as described by pretty much every Xtian is part of the trinity and therefore is Yahweh incarnate, ergo he shares the stain of being the worst character in all of fiction with Yahweh, so that's part of it. It's just that being human, he's able to be smug and hypocritical to people's faces so he's even bigger of an asshole; like when they give someone in a movie an apple to chew on. So he's basically like a really bad villain in one of my books, movies or video games; I hate the character but I know he never existed. It's just aggravating that so many people actually think he IS real, exactly as described.

he's basically like a really bad villain in one of my books, movies or video games; I hate the character but I know he never existed.

(July 25, 2017 at 9:22 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(July 22, 2017 at 5:32 pm)Dropship Wrote:

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Guys, guys, I keep asking you exactly why  you don't like JC, was it something he said or did that ruffles your feathers?
When am I gonna get a straight answer around here?

Other than the fact that no one knows what he said or did, or if he actually existed as portrayed, not much.

Even jews and muslims admit Jesus existed..
It's as if atheists have got something in them that makes them want to single out Jesus for attack; whole lotta shakin' going on..
"Believe in God, the demons also believe and tremble" (James 2:19)
Demons in a man said- "Let us alone; what have we to do with you Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are, the Holy One of God" (Mark 1:24)

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(July 25, 2017 at 10:21 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:

Dropship Wrote:Guys, guys, I keep asking you exactly why  you don't like JC, was it something he said or did that ruffles your feathers?
When am I gonna get a straight answer around here?

Telling you that we don't have a problem with Jesus as a person IS a straight answer. Either he's made-up and all of his words are really someone else's, or he's real and we don't know which words attributed to him are his and which were put in his mouth by writers..

Astonished quote-  he's basically like a really bad villain in one of my books, movies or video games; I hate the character but I know he never existed.
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Okay guys let's try a different tack and assume Jesus was either real or nor real. In either case, what was it he said that atheists don't like?

(July 25, 2017 at 1:14 pm)Dropship Wrote:

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he's basically like a really bad villain in one of my books, movies or video games; I hate the character but I know he never existed.

(July 25, 2017 at 9:22 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: Other than the fact that no one knows what he said or did, or if he actually existed as portrayed, not much.

Even jews and muslims admit Jesus existed..
It's as if atheists have got something in them that makes them want to single out Jesus for attack; whole lotta shakin' going on..
"Believe in God, the demons also believe and tremble" (James 2:19)
Demons in a man said- "Let us alone; what have we to do with you Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are, the Holy One of God" (Mark 1:24)

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(July 25, 2017 at 10:21 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Telling you that we don't have a problem with Jesus as a person IS a straight answer. Either he's made-up and all of his words are really someone else's, or he's real and we don't know which words attributed to him are his and which were put in his mouth by writers..

Astonished quote-  he's basically like a really bad villain in one of my books, movies or video games; I hate the character but I know he never existed.
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Okay guys let's try a different tack and assume Jesus was either real or nor real. In either case, what was it he said that atheists don't like?

Great Jumpin' Jehoshophat Jeebus on a unicyle.  It sure might be nice if Buddha, Kwan Yin, Vishna, Marduk, Odin All-Father, Athena . . . existed.  We could use a little help here.
Just how fuckin' dense ARE you?  It's not a matter of "like" or "dislike".  It's not a matter of whether he actually walked the earth or not.  He's IRRELEVANT.  He's dead.  He may have existed, he doesn't exist any more.  And no amount of quotes from an old book of fairy tales or silly memes are going to make him relevant.  Buh-bye.

Well Jesus straight up murders a tree for not bearing fruit in a season that it doesn't bear fruit.

Then you have the fact he tells his followers to hate their families. That doesn't seem very nice. He wanted to divide families. He also insisted people worship him and love him more than anything else. (So much for humble). He was also a big fan of his genocidal father (which was also him...) Oh yeah, and he and his dad (himself) plan to torture people for eternity. Also he approved of slavery. And nothing recorded about him advancing the rights of... well anyone. Despite him apparently being in a position to do so.

And least we forget, he raped his own mother.

(July 25, 2017 at 10:21 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:

Dropship Wrote:Guys, guys, I keep asking you exactly why  you don't like JC, was it something he said or did that ruffles your feathers?
When am I gonna get a straight answer around here?

Telling you that we don't have a problem with Jesus as a person IS a straight answer. Either he's made-up and all of his words are really someone else's, or he's real and we don't know which words attributed to him are his and which were put in his mouth by writers. Either way, we have no reason to be mad at Jesus as a person, if he was a person. Some people's conception of Jesus, and some of the people who claim to represent him, on the other hand, don't make him look too good. Maybe Jesus was an asshole, but we can't KNOW if he was an asshole. Maybe he was the most lovely person in the middle east in the 1st century, but we can't KNOW that either, I'm afraid.

Whoever first told the Parable of the Good Samaritan, I like it. Whoever told the parable about beating slaves, I don't like it. I don't know if either or both came from a 1st century rabbi named Yeshua who got in trouble with the Romans. Crucifixion is a hard way to go that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Asimov came up with this and I agree:

Why wouldn't a "good" Samaritan do as described in the parable?  

Think about that for a second, and then realize Jesus never used the word "good'.  It's on the header for the page, but no one claims Jesus wrote those.


Now read the parable again, and insert the word "ordinary" before each use of Samaritan.  It's a different parable now, isn't it?  And since Jesus didn't use the word "good", an ordinary Samaritan is what He had in mind.


Why does virtually every one get the wrong meaning from that parable ??  

Inertia, peer pressure, not bothering to read the damn book again ??????