Quote:I already gave you an example Gif

No, you haven't give me a real example of spiritual truth that you say exists in the bible. Show me some example so I understand what you mean.

Here it is again then Gif:

"Spiritual truth is truth of a spiritual nature. "In the beginning God.." - or literally, "in the beginning I am" is a statement concerning God's infinity, his existence outside of time. This is a spiritual truth. It's irrefutable; perfect. A perfect statement. The Bible is jam packed full of them."

Not good enough. More examples perhaps?

That statement don't say anything. Not a perfect statment at all.

Pretty good for a bronze age farmer to come up with I thought. Describing God in a way that still works now for us. It's perfect in that it's non refutable.

It simply shows that bronze age farmers had just as vivid an imagination and silicon age farmers.

So you think God created the world and made man by the rib from a women? Or do you just ignore those parts? Shouldn't you believe everything everything what says in that book, since you think it's so fantastic?

Also it deson't work for "us" maybe work for you but not for me. I don't believe in a god, so that's wrong statement to that it work for us.

Why do you think a bronze age farmer have come up with it?

"In the beginning I am"

Profound... O.o

"In the beginning I am not" <- oh my god it cannot be refuted and is so elegantly articulated! Spiritual truths ftw!

Seriously fr0d0, you've done better than this

(May 10, 2009 at 6:29 am)Darwinian Wrote: It simply shows that bronze age farmers had just as vivid an imagination and silicon age farmers.

Haha

(May 10, 2009 at 6:33 am)Giff Wrote: So you think God created the world and made man by the rib from a women? Or do you just ignore those parts? Shouldn't you believe everything everything what says in that book, since you think it's so fantastic?

Nope, I ignore no parts. I just don't assume all are literal, or all are poetic, because that would be stupid. It's spiritual truth first and foremost. Read it like that and it makes sense.

Quote:Also it deson't work for "us" maybe work for you but not for me. I don't believe in a god, so that's wrong statement to that it work for us.

The definition is of the Christian/ Judaic God, If you want to know how that god is defined then it works for you.

Quote:Why do you think a bronze age farmer have come up with it?

That's what atheists commonly say.

(May 10, 2009 at 7:11 am)LukeMC Wrote: "In the beginning I am"

Profound... O.o

"In the beginning I am not" <- oh my god it cannot be refuted and is so elegantly articulated! Spiritual truths ftw!

Seriously fr0d0, you've done better than this

That's the Wayne's World translation right?

Yours really isn't a statement. The Genesis statement is positive and asserts something. Yours asserts a negative and is pointless. Bronze Age bonehead 1: LukeMC 0

Are you a fundementalist Fr0d0?

Seems like it when you read a book an say it's truth, just because it's in the bible.

Good post Luke, by the way

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(May 10, 2009 at 7:30 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Nope, I ignore no parts. I just don't assume all are literal, or all are poetic, because that would be stupid. It's spiritual truth first and foremost. Read it like that and it makes sense.

So killing those who don't believe in God is a spritual truth?

(May 10, 2009 at 7:30 am)fr0d0 Wrote: The definition is of the Christian/ Judaic God, If you want to know how that god is defined then it works for you.

What is the definition of the christian/judaic God that works for everybody?

(May 10, 2009 at 7:30 am)fr0d0 Wrote: That's what atheists commonly say.

I don't. However it was somone who wrote those thihngs down. Could be a farmer but also some other guy.

(May 10, 2009 at 7:30 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Yours really isn't a statement. The Genesis statement is positive and asserts something. Yours asserts a negative and is pointless. Bronze Age bonehead 1: LukeMC 0

Nuh-uh. That's God saying he wasn't there in the beginning. He came along later (y)