Oh rod damn it . Now this idiots claiming because the bible metaphorically says god is light . It predicted photons .

(October 13, 2017 at 9:33 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
2 The same was in the beginning with God. 
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

When God appears to Paul, he saw light, so which part of the Bible am I cherry picking exactly?

No one with their priorities right gives a shit about the Bible. My frantic masturbation is more important than the Bible. And safer.

(October 13, 2017 at 4:41 am)Mr.Obvious Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 3:40 am)Godscreated Wrote:  God does sentence the unbelieving to hell, they choose not to believe. Given that they reject God means they have chosen hell. I'm not sure how you could believe that a person isn't responsible for their actions and then reap the consequences. God says He desires no one to perish, this would eliminate your idea that God makes them chose hell.

Well... The God-character can say a lot of things, but...

God isn't some character in a novel, He is real and He can only tell what is true.

Mr. Obvious Wrote:Do you believe God is all-knowing and all-powerfull and created the universe/world we live in? If you don't , than this argument of mine can be discarded. But if you do, than everything we do and choose and everything being the way it is, is because he pre-chose what we would do and believe and choose.

God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent, the last meaning God has saw what each of us choose to do with our lives, none of the three or a combination of them means He controls our eternal destination. If you believe what you posted above then you need to bring some proof of preordination, the Bible speaks of choice.

Mr. Obvious Wrote:=> Me not believing in God would be what God created me to do.

How so, where's your proof God planned His creation to be one way only, the scriptures do not say that. Why would God who loves all mankind create some to go to hell, you make no sense whatsoever.

Mr. Obvious Wrote:If God has an infinite ways of creating the world (all-powerful) and knows how every one of these he chooses to create would turn out (all-knowing) then by picking the one he creates actively predetermines my own choices. He could have created a universe in which everyone would come to believe in him. He then, hypothetically, chose not to do that but to create a universe in which you do believe in him and I don't. Likewise, your belief in him would be predetermined, even though you perhaps see it as your own choice. If there is an all-powerfull, all-knowing entity that sets up the system to it's own desires, it can hardly complain the components don't act in the way it wanted them to.

 This is a tired old argument that holds no water because it is completely flawed. God created the human race with choice, He wants us to come to Him in love. God is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent and being all these things and determining the total outcome of mankind then why would He even bother, it cost Him his Son through the suffering of all sin, God wouldn't have done this when all He had to do is destroy His creation. you make no sense in your argument and it has no bases at all.

GC

(October 13, 2017 at 11:01 pm)Godscreated Wrote: God isn't some character in a novel, He is real and He can only tell what is true.

But he is. It's the fictional novel called the bible.

(October 13, 2017 at 10:43 pm)Cyberman Wrote: How do you know what "God" said?

Read the Bible and answer the question for yourself, I haven't the time to argue with what I know you will say. We been through this you want listen so I'm not wasting my time on this.

GC

Ok, I'll skip to the punchline. You don't worship a god; you worship a book. And not even one worthy of worship.

(October 13, 2017 at 8:57 am)Astreja Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 3:40 am)Godscreated Wrote: God does sentence the unbelieving to hell, they choose not to believe. Given that they reject God means they have chosen hell.

If worshipping the creator of hell is the only other choice, then my morality demands that I choose hell.

I don't think that either of those things are real, though, so I'm not worried about it.

Quote:You better have proof of that statement. Just exactly why would Christianity need to have a scare tactic, what would be the purpose.

You need to get out more, GC.  Christianity has always been about money and power.  Look around you.

(October 13, 2017 at 5:31 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: God cant do anything at all now because the infinity stones are scattered.
But I see the guardians of the galaxy have found a couple and I believe theres one in asgard so who knows.

*Was* one in Asgard. I was wondering about that extra-shiny thing in my bowl of semi-precious stones, and why there's suddenly a raccoon in the neighbourhood.  

 I didn't even read your response, we've been through this enough and I'm tired of your willful spite on this subject.

GC

(October 13, 2017 at 11:06 pm)Cyberman Wrote: you worship a book. And not even one worthy of worship.

Unlike this:



Which is written by a pan-global phenomena who is amazingly graet. I wonder when he's coming back.

(October 13, 2017 at 11:06 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Ok, I'll skip to the punchline. You don't worship a god; you worship a book. And not even one worthy of worship.

 I worship the God who gave us His word so that we could have a spiritual relationship with Him, the book is all about how to enter that relationship and keep the relationship healthy.

GC

List one thing that you know of your god that you didn't get from the book.