(October 14, 2017 at 2:37 am)Godisgood Wrote: So in 5-10 years,, we will be able to  violate the Law of Biogenesis.

God somehow made it happen.

He somehow made it happen.

Given that God is allpowerful, it wasnt difficult.


Yes there will always be believers who think that because its more logical than life coming from nonlife, and considering it will never actually happen. It doesnt even make sense to try and pretend that it can happen.

Just as I thought. You have nothing.

The "Law of Biogenesis" isn't a thing. It's a neologism dreamed up by the creationist community and amounts to nothing more than an unsupported claim.

The rest is just more unsupported assertion. Aside from your holy book, what is your evidence for this god?

(October 14, 2017 at 2:50 am)Godisgood Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:49 am)Astreja Wrote: I'm willing to cut you a little bit of slack, then.  If you plan to go on to college, please try to improve your reading and writing skills when you can because you'll need them in order to write acceptable term papers.

Thanks! Can we please move to a different place to talk? Please. I cant stand this site anymore. Its driving me nuts. Its not you. Its people taking issue with what im doing and its annoying. I know a really good site.

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:49 am)Cyberman Wrote: You are saying that as though none of us are familiar with AiG. Ken Ham is a known liar, not only of creationist arguments. Literally everything written on his agenda-driven site has been debunked time and again.

And please learn to quote.

Ken Ham is a known liar, not only of creationist arguments

Thats an opinion!

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:50 am)Godisgood Wrote: Thanks! Can we please move to a different place to talk? Please. I cant stand this site anymore. Its driving me nuts. Its not you. Its people taking issue with what im doing and its annoying. I know a really good site.

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Ken Ham is a known liar, not only of creationist arguments

Thats an opinion!

And I guess Bill Nye isnt a liar when he says that its an observed fact that everything has been observed to have come about by natural processes even though it hasnt???

And Likewise creationists have wrote about atheist and evolutionists stuff and they have debunked it as well.  Youu just choose to ignore it.

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:52 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:37 am)Godisgood Wrote: So in 5-10 years,, we will be able to  violate the Law of Biogenesis.

God somehow made it happen.

He somehow made it happen.

Given that God is allpowerful, it wasnt difficult.


Yes there will always be believers who think that because its more logical than life coming from nonlife, and considering it will never actually happen. It doesnt even make sense to try and pretend that it can happen.

Just as I thought. You have nothing.

The "Law of Biogenesis" isn't a thing. It's a neologism dreamed up by the creationist community and amounts to nothing more than an unsupported claim.

The rest is just more unsupported assertion. Aside from your holy book, what is your evidence for this god?

The Law of Biogenesis is a scientific FACT!!

(October 14, 2017 at 2:47 am)Godisgood Wrote: It wont because it isnt logical and it violates the law of biogenesis.

Biogenesis is an older concept, from the 1800s.  It isn't a biological law, and the term was invented before biologists knew about DNA.

(October 14, 2017 at 2:52 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:37 am)Godisgood Wrote: So in 5-10 years,, we will be able to  violate the Law of Biogenesis.

God somehow made it happen.

He somehow made it happen.

Given that God is allpowerful, it wasnt difficult.


Yes there will always be believers who think that because its more logical than life coming from nonlife, and considering it will never actually happen. It doesnt even make sense to try and pretend that it can happen.

Just as I thought. You have nothing.

The "Law of Biogenesis" isn't a thing. It's a neologism dreamed up by the creationist community and amounts to nothing more than an unsupported claim.

The rest is just more unsupported assertion. Aside from your holy book, what is your evidence for this god?

The rest is just more unsupported assertion. Aside from your holy book, what is your evidence for this god? 

Look around you. What we see around is, thats design!? When you look at a car, it obviously had a designer right? Do you honestly think the universe wasnt created by an intelligient being?

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:54 am)Astreja Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:47 am)Godisgood Wrote: It wont because it isnt logical and it violates the law of biogenesis.

Biogenesis is an older concept, from the 1800s.  It isn't a biological law, and the term was invented before biologists knew about DNA.

Ok and?

Can we move to a different spot please?

(October 14, 2017 at 2:50 am)Godisgood Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:49 am)Cyberman Wrote: You are saying that as though none of us are familiar with AiG. Ken Ham is a known liar, not only of creationist arguments. Literally everything written on his agenda-driven site has been debunked time and again.

And please learn to quote.

Thats an opinion!

It's opinion based on fact. Ham is notorious for his intellectual dishonesty. That's how he conned the good people of Kentucky to pay millions of dollars for his toy boat.

Learn to quote. Do it once more and I will assume you are doing it deliberately.

(October 14, 2017 at 2:55 am)Godisgood Wrote: Can we move to a different spot please?

Sorry; no.  I have to get off the Internet now anyway because it's going on 2 in the morning and I have to be up at 7:30.  Good night, everyone.

(October 14, 2017 at 2:55 am)Godisgood Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:52 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Just as I thought. You have nothing.

The "Law of Biogenesis" isn't a thing. It's a neologism dreamed up by the creationist community and amounts to nothing more than an unsupported claim.

The rest is just more unsupported assertion. Aside from your holy book, what is your evidence for this god?

The rest is just more unsupported assertion. Aside from your holy book, what is your evidence for this god? 

Look around you. What we see around is, thats design!? When you look at a car, it obviously had a designer right? Do you honestly think the universe wasnt created by an intelligient being?

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:54 am)Astreja Wrote: Biogenesis is an older concept, from the 1800s.  It isn't a biological law, and the term was invented before biologists knew about DNA.

Ok and?

Can we move to a different spot please?

Biogenesis is an older concept, from the 1800s.  It isn't a biological law, and the term was invented before biologists knew about DNA.


Ok and them not knowing about DNA argues against life coming from nonlife??

Its like with Darwin. We know so much more about cells then he knew back then. It really doesnt make sense to say that cells came about by chance or IOW, that they were not designed.

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:57 am)Astreja Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:55 am)Godisgood Wrote: Can we move to a different spot please?

Sorry; no.  I have to get off the Internet now anyway because it's going on 2 in the morning and I have to be up at 7:30.  Good night, everyone.

So can i say the place of where to go to, then and we can pick up tommorow then, or whenever you have the chance?

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:52 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:37 am)Godisgood Wrote: So in 5-10 years,, we will be able to  violate the Law of Biogenesis.

God somehow made it happen.

He somehow made it happen.

Given that God is allpowerful, it wasnt difficult.


Yes there will always be believers who think that because its more logical than life coming from nonlife, and considering it will never actually happen. It doesnt even make sense to try and pretend that it can happen.

Just as I thought. You have nothing.

The "Law of Biogenesis" isn't a thing. It's a neologism dreamed up by the creationist community and amounts to nothing more than an unsupported claim.

The rest is just more unsupported assertion. Aside from your holy book, what is your evidence for this god?

It's a neologism dreamed up by the creationist community and amounts to nothing more than an unsupported claim.

That is NOT true!! Come on now. We are trying to be logical!! You really think life coming from non-life makes more sense than life coming from life?? Really!??

(October 14, 2017 at 2:52 am)Godisgood Wrote: The Law of Biogenesis is a scientific FACT!!

See Astreja's reply. There is no "Law of Biogenesis" outside the writings of the creationist community. They took an outdated concept, slapped the word 'law' in front of it, and -- presto chango! -- invented an imaginary law that no one in the biological community recognizes.

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:57 am)Astreja Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:55 am)Godisgood Wrote: Can we move to a different spot please?

Sorry; no.  I have to get off the Internet now anyway because it's going on 2 in the morning and I have to be up at 7:30.  Good night, everyone.

I'm off, too. It's my duty weekend and I have to be up in about 4 hours.

(October 13, 2017 at 10:11 am)Khemikal Wrote: The obvious problem being that the "more detailed account" is no less inaccurate.

That's not necessary true.

If you give me a more detailed account of macro-evolution that still doesn't change the fact that it hasn't been observed!!

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:57 am)Cyberman Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:50 am)Godisgood Wrote: Thats an opinion!

It's opinion based on fact. Ham is notorious for his intellectual dishonesty. That's how he conned the good people of Kentucky to pay millions of dollars for his toy boat.

Learn to quote. Do it once more and I will assume you are doing it deliberately.

Wow! Ignorance!! have you been to kentucky??? Have you seen the boat?? If not, dont be stupid and make ignorant assumptions!!

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(October 14, 2017 at 3:06 am)Godisgood Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 10:11 am)Khemikal Wrote: The obvious problem being that the "more detailed account" is no less inaccurate.

That's not necessary true.

If you give me a more detailed account of macro-evolution that still doesn't change the fact that it hasn't been observed!!

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:57 am)Cyberman Wrote: It's opinion based on fact. Ham is notorious for his intellectual dishonesty. That's how he conned the good people of Kentucky to pay millions of dollars for his toy boat.

Learn to quote. Do it once more and I will assume you are doing it deliberately.

Wow! Ignorance!! have you been to kentucky??? Have you seen the boat?? If not, dont be stupid and make ignorant assumptions!!

It's opinion based on fact.
No its not
That's how he conned the good people of Kentucky to pay millions of dollars for his toy boat.
No its not





learn to quote. i am sorry but i do not know what you are talking about?? FYI, Im 18, and Im in 12th grade.

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(October 14, 2017 at 3:00 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:52 am)Godisgood Wrote: The Law of Biogenesis is a scientific FACT!!

See Astreja's reply. There is no "Law of Biogenesis" outside the writings of the creationist community. They took an outdated concept, slapped the word 'law' in front of it, and -- presto chango! -- invented an imaginary law that no one in the biological community recognizes.

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:57 am)Astreja Wrote: Sorry; no.  I have to get off the Internet now anyway because it's going on 2 in the morning and I have to be up at 7:30.  Good night, everyone.

I'm off, too. It's my duty weekend and I have to be up in about 4 hours.

Ok We will do it next time.

Thats not true. There is a law of biogenesis thats outside of the creationist community. Its called science. sorry to sound sarcastic but im getting frustrated!

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(October 14, 2017 at 3:00 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 2:52 am)Godisgood Wrote: The Law of Biogenesis is a scientific FACT!!

See Astreja's reply. There is no "Law of Biogenesis" outside the writings of the creationist community. They took an outdated concept, slapped the word 'law' in front of it, and -- presto chango! -- invented an imaginary law that no one in the biological community recognizes.

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(October 14, 2017 at 2:57 am)Astreja Wrote: Sorry; no.  I have to get off the Internet now anyway because it's going on 2 in the morning and I have to be up at 7:30.  Good night, everyone.

I'm off, too. It's my duty weekend and I have to be up in about 4 hours.

They took an outdated concept, slapped the word 'law' in front of it, and -- presto chango! -- invented an imaginary law that no one in the biological community recognizes.

That is a 100% lie!!

(October 14, 2017 at 1:04 am)Godisgood Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 12:32 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Well there was a time when people thought that that there were dog headed people living in india. That was their opinion based on rumours by people who had allegedly "witnessed" these imaginary beings, but as we know witness testimony is notoriously unreliable and what happened was that people actually went to india and found that there were in fact no dog headed people there, so their opinion changed to no longer believing in dog heads. It was an opinion that had changed due to new information.

People used to think that radiation was good for you when it was first discovered because energy=good for you and they sold irradiated water and food to give you vitality. That was their "opinion" but it changed when it was discovered that it was immensely bad for you.

I could go on if you like I have like a hundred examples of this.

Ok and Atheists believe that everything around us, morality, the laws of nature, the universe, life can be explained naturally even though that has never been observed.

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(October 14, 2017 at 1:04 am)Godisgood Wrote: Ok and Atheists believe that everything around us, morality, the laws of nature, the universe, life can be explained naturally even though that has never been observed.

Ok none of what you said is Christianity??

Ok then there was a time when people believed in what was written in the bible. They believed in the creation myths in genesis for example until these explanations were overturned by better explanations evolution the big bang etc, they believed in the new testament that there was a messianic person called jesus. But lets examine the time of Christ. Messianic figures were everywhere. Ten a penny, many of them well documented, (not the jesus of the new testament interestingly which is supported by some forgeries and vague references years later).    

I could go on for ages recounting the unreliability of the bible and the new testament specifically.