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This Is A Fair Question
RE: This Is A Fair Question
(March 1, 2018 at 3:06 pm)Succubus Wrote:
(March 1, 2018 at 12:38 pm)stretch3172 Wrote: Your argument is invalid. If you and I both witnessed the same event such as a parade or concert and wrote about it, our accounts would differ quite a bit in terms of the details we include (or omit). Still, both accounts could be faithful, accurate renderings of the same event from different perspectives, and both could contain valuable information to a curious reader. The only difference is that God influenced and directed this process.

No. Mark saw a short clip of Pink Floyd's Division Bell concert on MTV through a television shop window. Matthew watched the whole thing on VHS tape. Luke saw them live at Earls Court and John was on stage playing lead guitar.

And this is an accurate analogy in what way(s)?
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Quote: Someone didn't get the memo that Isaiah is a book of prophecy.

More like someone didn't get the memo that Isaiah is a book of horseshit.
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Here's a video for you Huggy that might help you see that the slavery in the bible is not indentured servitude: 


I believe in life before death.
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(March 1, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(March 1, 2018 at 2:50 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That's what it says, isn't it?  That a person caught selling a stolen man is subject to punishment.  Biblically, slavery is a-ok....stealing slaves, otoh, is not.  That's pedestrian as all get out.  Slave owners have always thought poorly of other slave owners who steal their human property.

Are you stupid?

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL is one of the 10 commandments, so if the man is someones property as you say, then that already covered under the 10 commandments.

However "he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." is referring to kidnapping and selling someone into servitude or forcing them into servitude.

Jesus F.... Christ!  When will you ever learn what the damn Ten Commandments are?  THOU SHALT NOT STEAL is NOT one of the 10 damn commandments!
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(March 1, 2018 at 4:36 pm)stretch3172 Wrote:
(March 1, 2018 at 3:06 pm)Succubus Wrote: No. Mark saw a short clip of Pink Floyd's Division Bell concert on MTV through a television shop window. Matthew watched the whole thing on VHS tape. Luke saw them live at Earls Court and John was on stage playing lead guitar.

And this is an accurate analogy in what way(s)?

It's your analogy not mine.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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(March 1, 2018 at 5:13 pm)Antares Wrote: Here's a video for you Huggy that might help you see that the slavery in the bible is not indentured servitude: 



Triple kudos for posting an excellent video.
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(March 1, 2018 at 6:36 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(March 1, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Are you stupid?

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL is one of the 10 commandments, so if the man is someones property as you say, then that already covered under the 10 commandments.

However "he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." is referring to kidnapping and selling someone into servitude or forcing them into servitude.

Jesus F.... Christ!  When will you ever learn what the damn Ten Commandments are?  THOU SHALT NOT STEAL is NOT one of the 10 damn commandments!

I'll play along, name the 10 commandments?
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(March 1, 2018 at 6:40 pm)Succubus Wrote:
(March 1, 2018 at 4:36 pm)stretch3172 Wrote: And this is an accurate analogy in what way(s)?

It's your analogy not mine.

I'm afraid it's barely even close to my analogy. Mine implied that we had the same type of experience, and our accounts would therefore be somewhat different yet consistent (assuming that we were both being honest). Yours apparently assumes that they are so radically different from one another that there would be no consistency whatsoever, which is just plain false. Only John differs significantly from the the others, yet it too is theologically consistent with the Synoptic Gospels.
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(March 1, 2018 at 5:13 pm)Antares Wrote: Here's a video for you Huggy that might help you see that the slavery in the bible is not indentured servitude: 



Apparently this clueless chic doesn't realize there were African Christians in the bible, long before the Atlantic slave trade...

Smh
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(March 1, 2018 at 7:10 pm)stretch3172 Wrote:
(March 1, 2018 at 6:40 pm)Succubus Wrote: It's your analogy not mine.

I'm afraid it's barely even close to my analogy. Mine implied that we had the same type of experience, and our accounts would therefore be somewhat different yet consistent (assuming that we were both being honest). Yours apparently assumes that they are so radically different from one another that there would be no consistency whatsoever, which is just plain false. Only John differs significantly from the the others, yet it too is theologically consistent with the Synoptic Gospels.

Where is the theologically consistency here:

Miracles that aren't reported in the other gospels:
The changing of water into wine John 2:1-11.
Giving sight to a man blind from birth John 9:1-8.
Raising Lazarus from the dead John 11:1-45.
But then John says nothing about the birth of Jesus, his baptism by John the Baptist, or his temptation by Satan.

To repeat; if the gospels are true they should be the same. They are not the same, they are drastically different and cannot possibly be true.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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