(June 27, 2018 at 9:42 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(June 27, 2018 at 9:19 am)mh.brewer Wrote: MK's affliction seems to have obsessive and persecutorial aspects that may never improve. I always wonder if the people treating him know about the extent of his activities here.

One many things you Atheist talk about with no knowledge.

Some knowledge.

(June 27, 2018 at 10:43 am)mh.brewer Wrote:

(June 27, 2018 at 9:42 am)MysticKnight Wrote: One many things you Atheist talk about with no knowledge.

Some knowledge.

Not really, you guys rely on conjecture and are betting everything on it.

(June 27, 2018 at 10:44 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(June 27, 2018 at 10:43 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Some knowledge.

Not really, you guys rely on conjecture and are betting everything on it.

You are incorrect.

(June 27, 2018 at 10:45 am)mh.brewer Wrote:

(June 27, 2018 at 10:44 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Not really, you guys rely on conjecture and are betting everything on it.

You are incorrect.

I know for a fact you rely on conjectures that rely on other conjectures, and you have no knowledge and proof your stance is ok.

(June 27, 2018 at 9:16 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(June 27, 2018 at 8:52 am)Astreja Wrote: No, there is no external evidence that Islam has anything to do with gods.  It  is not proof.  It is not evidence.  It is only belief and nothing more, and no matter how many thousands of times you say the word "proof" you will be no closer to satisfying our evidentiary requirements.

If you want to convince us, you have to do it on our terms -- not on yours.

How would you know that? You guys obviously all you do is just playfully jest when you research proofs of God and religion.

I assure you, MK, that I am deadly serious when I say that I have never in all of my sixty years seen any credible evidence for the existence of gods.

I play a goddess on the Internet, and that is in jest -- and also to make a vital point about religion.  If I were a real goddess, would you be able to accept that, or would you reject Me because I'm not mentioned in the Quran?

Moreover, in My divine role as the Springy Goddess (or "Springy G" for short), I'm in charge of things that don't actually need divine intervention:  The spring equinox, chocolate, punctuation, and Random Equipment Malfunctions.  When your car won't start or your computer hard drive crashes, I claim the credit.  That's essentially what every believer does -- give their particular god credit for things that happen without gods.

But I remain agnostic of My own divinity, because I don't see any evidence for My own godhood either. Wouldn't want to be a hypocrite about it.

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(June 27, 2018 at 10:38 am)MysticKnight Wrote: So you basically lay the conditions of proof and won't listen to what the proof is.

What do you mean, "won't listen"?  We're all familiar with what you think is proof; we just don't agree with you.  When you say "won't listen," do you actually mean "won't accept"?

(June 27, 2018 at 10:58 am)Astreja Wrote:

(June 27, 2018 at 9:16 am)MysticKnight Wrote: How would you know that? You guys obviously all you do is just playfully jest when you research proofs of God and religion.

I assure you, MK, that I am deadly serious when I say that I have never in all of my sixty years seen any credible evidence for the existence of gods.

I play a goddess on the Internet, and that is in jest -- and also to make a vital point about religion.  If I were a real goddess, would you be able to accept that, or would you reject Me because I'm not mentioned in the Quran?

Moreover, in My divine role as the Springy Goddess (or "Springy G" for short), I'm in charge of things that don't actually need divine intervention:  The spring equinox, chocolate, punctuation, and Random Equipment Malfunctions.  When your car won't start or your computer hard drive crashes, I claim the credit.  That's essentially what every believer does -- give their particular god credit for things that happen without gods.

But I remain agnostic of My own divinity, because I don't see any evidence for My own godhood either. Wouldn't want to be a hypocrite about it.

The name of God not only proves God, but negates all other possibilities of gods aside from the named by the name of God.

(June 27, 2018 at 11:03 am)MysticKnight Wrote: The name of God not only proves God, but negates all other possibilities of gods aside from the named by the name of God.

No, the name of a god proves nothing at all.  Your bogus "proof" is unconditionally rejected.

(June 27, 2018 at 10:53 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(June 27, 2018 at 10:45 am)mh.brewer Wrote: You are incorrect.

I know for a fact you rely on conjectures that rely on other conjectures, and you have no knowledge and proof your stance is ok.

Then tell us of your life outside of the forum. Tell us about your day to day interactions with people around you. 

Do you preach to everyone IRL? Or even preach to the other muslims IRL? Do you insist that you are the only one who really knows the true answers and that they are all ignorant? 

Or is it only on the forum that you get to indulge behavior that would not be accepted IRL society? Behavior that you should be telling your mental health professionals, but I doubt that you actually are.

(June 27, 2018 at 10:58 am)Astreja Wrote:

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(June 27, 2018 at 10:38 am)MysticKnight Wrote: So you basically lay the conditions of proof and won't listen to what the proof is.

What do you mean, "won't listen"?  We're all familiar with what you think is proof; we just don't agree with you.  When you say "won't listen," do you actually mean "won't accept"?

The proof for Islam and Quran, none of you are aware of and you won't bother to become acquainted with it, lest you be guided and have to leave your desires and conjecture concept of the self.  You run away from God's Name and his light and proof, but where are you really going? God's Name is the refuge to God, and his door the path, and his path is the way, and there is misleading ways, yes, those will mix truth with falsehood, good with evil, and mix it all up, but the mixed garbage is evil as well.

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(June 27, 2018 at 11:04 am)mh.brewer Wrote:

(June 27, 2018 at 10:53 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I know for a fact you rely on conjectures that rely on other conjectures, and you have no knowledge and proof your stance is ok.

Then tell us of your life outside of the forum. Tell us about your day to day interactions with people around you. 

Do you preach to everyone IRL? Or even preach to the other muslims IRL? Do you insist that you are the only one who really knows the true answers and that they are all ignorant? 

Or is it only on the forum that you get to indulge behavior that would not be accepted IRL society? Behavior that you should be telling your mental health professionals, but I doubt that you actually are.

Forum is a place to discuss these things.  You guys demand evidence and then act irrationally and stubbornly and refuse to listen properly when evidence is presented.

(June 27, 2018 at 11:05 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

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(June 27, 2018 at 11:04 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Then tell us of your life outside of the forum. Tell us about your day to day interactions with people around you. 

Do you preach to everyone IRL? Or even preach to the other muslims IRL? Do you insist that you are the only one who really knows the true answers and that they are all ignorant? 

Or is it only on the forum that you get to indulge behavior that would not be accepted IRL society? Behavior that you should be telling your mental health professionals, but I doubt that you actually are.

Forum is a place to discuss these things.  You guys demand evidence and then act irrationally and stubbornly and refuse to listen properly when evidence is presented.

Why are you evading? Is there a chance that I've hit on something more than conjecture?

If you discussions here are so acceptable why do you not discuss them IRL?