(September 24, 2018 at 1:14 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(September 24, 2018 at 1:07 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: You supported a guy for President who confessed on tape to committing sexual assault. You either weren’t listening then or didn’t give a shit. Why would anyone believe you now?

I don't particularly care if you believe me.

No kidding. We know there are far more important things than my opinion of your veracity that you also don’t particularly care about. You’ve made that abundantly clear.

Quote:I don't particularly care if you believe me.

Good because we don't

(September 24, 2018 at 1:05 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Maybe you, alpha, and Neo, can help me out.  In my state of Minnesota, former Democratic U.S. senator Keith Ellison is running for state attorney general.  His race for the primary was complicated by last minute allegations from his former partner, Karen Monahan, that he had abused her.  Like in the Kavanaugh case, Ms. Monahan told healthcare workers about the abuse after she had left the relationship.  No witnesses have come forward to corroborate her claim that Ellison abused her.  Given that as a Democrat I want to see a Democrat elected attorney general of my state, should I vote for Ellison?  Why or why not?

You don't see any differences between the two cases?

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(September 24, 2018 at 1:17 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: No kidding. We know there are far more important things than my opinion of your veracity that you also don’t particularly care about. You’ve made that abundantly clear.

Yeah, and you don't care whether a man might be falsely accused of sexual assault. Whatever.

(September 24, 2018 at 1:31 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(September 24, 2018 at 1:05 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Maybe you, alpha, and Neo, can help me out.  In my state of Minnesota, former Democratic U.S. senator Keith Ellison is running for state attorney general.  His race for the primary was complicated by last minute allegations from his former partner, Karen Monahan, that he had abused her.  Like in the Kavanaugh case, Ms. Monahan told healthcare workers about the abuse after she had left the relationship.  No witnesses have come forward to corroborate her claim that Ellison abused her.  Given that as a Democrat I want to see a Democrat elected attorney general of my state, should I vote for Ellison?  Why or why not?

You don't see any differences between the two cases?

There are differences. What are the differences and why are they significant enough to you to justify voting for Kavanaugh in the first, but not Ellison in the second?

(September 24, 2018 at 1:31 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(September 24, 2018 at 1:05 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Maybe you, alpha, and Neo, can help me out.  In my state of Minnesota, former Democratic U.S. senator Keith Ellison is running for state attorney general.  His race for the primary was complicated by last minute allegations from his former partner, Karen Monahan, that he had abused her.  Like in the Kavanaugh case, Ms. Monahan told healthcare workers about the abuse after she had left the relationship.  No witnesses have come forward to corroborate her claim that Ellison abused her.  Given that as a Democrat I want to see a Democrat elected attorney general of my state, should I vote for Ellison?  Why or why not?

You don't see any differences between the two cases?

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(September 24, 2018 at 1:17 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: No kidding. We know there are far more important things than my opinion of your veracity that you also don’t particularly care about. You’ve made that abundantly clear.

Yeah, and you don't care whether a man might be falsely accused of sexual assault. Whatever.

Nice try, skippy. As usual, you’re dead wrong.

(September 24, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: There are differences.  What are the differences and why are they significant enough to you to justify voting for Kavanaugh in the first, but not Ellison in the second?

I didn't say you shouldn't vote for Ellison. In the little I've read about it - the MSM like to cover charges against Republicans much more - the thing that stands out is she says she has video showing abuse. Unless witnesses come out in the meantime, personally I'd reserve judgment until she shows the video.

She's more credible than Ford in that she didn't let 30 years go by before talking about it. However, I don't like the way she actually points out that she has told health care professionals about it. Seems a little sketchy.

(September 24, 2018 at 1:40 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(September 24, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: There are differences.  What are the differences and why are they significant enough to you to justify voting for Kavanaugh in the first, but not Ellison in the second?

I didn't say you shouldn't vote for Ellison. In the little I've read about it - the MSM like to cover charges against Republicans much more - the thing that stands out is she says she has video showing abuse. Unless witnesses come out in the meantime, personally I'd reserve judgment until she shows the video.

She's more credible than Ford in that she didn't let 30 years go by before talking about it. However, I don't like the way she actually points out that she has told health care professionals about it. Seems a little sketchy.

She doesn't have the video. It was 'lost' from what I remember.

(September 24, 2018 at 1:41 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: She doesn't have the video.  It was 'lost' from what I remember.

That's a mark against her credibility, don't you think?

(September 24, 2018 at 1:05 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Maybe you, alpha, and Neo, can help me out.  In my state of Minnesota, former Democratic U.S. senator Keith Ellison is running for state attorney general.  His race for the primary was complicated by last minute allegations from his former partner, Karen Monahan, that he had abused her.  Like in the Kavanaugh case, Ms. Monahan told healthcare workers about the abuse after she had left the relationship.  No witnesses have come forward to corroborate her claim that Ellison abused her.  Given that as a Democrat I want to see a Democrat elected attorney general of my state, should I vote for Ellison?  Why or why not?

You live in Minnesota?

(September 24, 2018 at 1:47 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(September 24, 2018 at 1:41 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: She doesn't have the video.  It was 'lost' from what I remember.

That's a mark against her credibility, don't you think?

I don't think it's either for or against her. Videos get lost. It happens.