(October 21, 2018 at 4:42 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:ISIS would not have any life force were it not for the deceiving actor Barack Obama.

He is a huge factor to that harm in the middle-east. 

Don't expect me to over-look his crimes because he is an African American.

I would never excuse anyone for being complicit in atrocity because of their race.  I excuse Barack Obama of being complicit in these atrocities because a lot of them happened before he was on the world stage.  The Taliban were blowing up and bulldozing World Heritage sites before they'd ever heard of Barack Obama.

Boru

Ok put your head the sand.

ISIS would not have had any life force nor the chaos in Syria would have ensued were it not for Obama.

Just as Yemen would not be facing what it's facing, were it not for the green light from US current government.

But keep getting evil Muslims to do your bidding. The evil Muslims are people of envy, they will sell and bring the whole region to chaos to hide the truth in my poem.

That's what you don't realize, they use you too, because to them, Shiites are the worse people, and it's irrational hate, it's hate out of envy like the holy books describe Cain killing Abel through.

They will sell their souls to the devil, bring the whole region chaos, take side of every oppressor, before acknowledging Ali and his position in Quran and will do everything to oppress his truth.

They are blind minions who are fueled by envy to the family of the reminder. Evil is their likeness.

Trump’s claim that Obama is ‘founder’ of ISIS

Quote:Is Obama the founder of ISIS?
Absolutely not. It’s like saying that Ronald Reagan is the founder of al-Qaeda because the arms he sent to the mujahideen in Afghanistan after the Soviet invasion led to the creation of al-Qaeda. It’s a ludicrous claim.

So who founded ISIS?
It was started by a Jordanian terrorist named Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. It did not initially start out calling itself ISIS; it was called al-Qaeda in Iraq.

So what did Obama have to do with the rise of ISIS?
That goes back to my earlier point. ISIS arose in response to the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. Zarqawi moved into Iraq in advance of the invasion in anticipation of leading a Sunni insurgency. That’s really the origin of ISIS from a U.S. policy standpoint. [Note: Trump supported the invasion of Iraq.]

But why did ISIS suddenly seem to grow rapidly during the Obama administration?
The civil war in Syria breathed new life into what had become a moribund organization. The conflict in Syria created a perfect vacuum in terms of governance, and so the civil war became an opportunity for the restoration of the organization. You could fault the White House for not intervening into the Syrian conflict. But there are all kinds of questions about whether any actions taken by the United States would make a difference. Also, given Russian opposition at the United Nations, it’s pretty unlikely the United States could have gotten international backing for an intervention.

Some people have also criticized Obama for pulling troops out of Iraq.
There are two different issues. ISIS rebounded within the space created in the Syrian conflict. ISIS then saw opportunity to rebound in Iraq. One factor was the withdrawal of U.S. troops. But there was also rampant mismanagement by the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, which greatly degraded the Iraqi military and exacerbated tensions between Sunnis and Shiites.

Nope money came from Obama, not only that they funded camps to fight Syria government and instilled them with hate of Iran and Hezbollah, and called them "modernist rebels" and they gave money to a group that was linked to another group that was linked to ISIS, and they knew exactly what they were doing.

But keep following false deceiving actors claiming to own land that belongs to no one but God, and have divided us against each other, exalting some people and belittling others.

Gog and Magog, that's what these ancient societies are called, they will all fall from every high place when the promise of God comes.

They act like they are against each other, but are duping the masses. No one get's to power but is one of them, and one president then betrayed got murdered by them right after doing a speech manifesting shadow government(s) in US.

People "speaking for God" remind me of the Wizard of Oz saying, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

Yet it's the Torah, Psalms, and Bible and Quran that reveal the true champion Lion Kings of God who resist the deceivers who you guys let rule you and deceive you.

Hey, if you want to deceive us too, get in line!

(October 21, 2018 at 5:53 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote: Hey, if you want to deceive us too, get in line!

The truth has long destroyed the falsehood, all you have to do is listen.

Blah, blah, blah. You act as if I hadn't already told you that I listened to mystics and religious people for 25 years, and left empty handed.

You are wasting people's time.

(October 21, 2018 at 5:56 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote: Blah, blah, blah.  You act as if I hadn't already told you that I listened to mystics and religious people for 25 years, and left empty handed.

You are wasting people's time.

I'm not trying to prove God in this thread, just showing the consequences of rebelling and envying his anointed pure Kings, is real, and has real time effect through history to today, through the paradigm of Bible and Quran.

Truth remains whether it has one supporter or a billion.  The battle between good and evil, lies heavily on how we react to God's rope and handhold.

Some people are neutral in that, and they do good acts, and may God forgive them. However, whoever envies the blessed tree of guidance, there place is hell forever.

And the rabid dogs ruling Saudi Arabia comes from a history of murdering of Prophets down to Mohammad, and then poisoning his successors and assassinating them one by one.

And we will not forget Karbala on the 10th of Muharam when the Leader Hussain was murdered.

(October 21, 2018 at 5:47 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Nope money came from Obama, not only that they funded camps to fight Syria government and instilled them with hate of Iran and Hezbollah, and called them "modernist rebels" and they gave money to a group that was linked to another group that was linked to ISIS, and they knew exactly what they were doing.

But keep following false deceiving actors claiming to own land that belongs to no one but God, and have divided us against each other,  exalting some people and belittling others.

Gog and Magog, that's what these ancient societies are called, they will all fall from every high place when the promise of God comes.

They act like they are against each other, but are duping the masses.   No one get's to power but is one of them, and one president then betrayed got murdered by them right after doing a speech manifesting shadow government(s) in US.

I'll take the word of the writer of a Pulitzer Prize winning book about the rise of ISIS over the musings of some Canadian Shiite moron any day of the week.