(December 28, 2018 at 8:12 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 28, 2018 at 7:33 pm)Amarok Wrote: No he's not and it's not even his problem

Well then you answer it.

If he can't substantiate the question, I'm not wasting my time with it.  Has nothing to do with you or you opinion.

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(December 28, 2018 at 7:36 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Why do you say that? I said what it means for something to be evidence. That is what you asked for. What else are you wanting?

Specifics on what would count as evidence for a supernatural? I can't think of any because I haven't seen enough discussion of the supposed properties of a supernatural to determine what sorts of evidence would justify the conclusion that such exists.

If nothing can be considered, then no point in providing anything.

I didn't say nothing can be considered. I said I didn't know of any sort of evidence that would support the concept. perhaps you can enlighten me.

T0 Th3 M4X, just give us what you think is good enough evidence for supernaturalism, and let us judge if it makes for good evidence or not. When you continue to not provide anything to evaluate, then we're justified in thinking you're dodging the challenge because you aren't able to meet it (because there is no conclusive evidence for God).

Think I'm wrong? Make an effort, and provide the evidence. Or just be humble and admit you don't have [good] evidence for God but that you just choose to believe in God only because it makes sense to you. If you say that, I'll have a lot of respect for you because nothing is more pleasing than when the person I'm interacting with is being as intellectually honest as one can be.

(December 29, 2018 at 3:12 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 29, 2018 at 2:12 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Aw, poor thing doesn't appreciate having his own trash shoved in his face, lol.

Aww, boo hoo.  Have you always been such a crybaby?  Maybe you're just cranky because you need your diapey changed.

I don't owe you or any other nutjob anything.  Heck, you don't owe me anything.  Maybe focus on how you can contribute to society rather than bothering everybody and trying to tell them you're wrong.  You can't give someone something they refuse to accept.  If you wanted a duck and I handed you one, you would go out of your way to say it isn't a duck.  That's why it's a waste of time trying to explain things to the ignorant.

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~ Donald J. Trump

You sound just like president Trump, and likely for the same reason, because you're both ignorant, lying dumbasses.

(December 28, 2018 at 9:45 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 28, 2018 at 9:37 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Out of curiosity, what logical fallacy can you identify in the quoted post?  Additionally, what's the problem with the criteria established by the definition of the term, itself?

I never asserted that I would provide evidence.  Additionally, I never offered anything as evidence.  His statement assumes that I did or that it was insufficient.

To this point is is something that is on the table for consideration, but I'm not going to go in circles about something being evidence if it can't be viewed objectively.  If not, there's no point to it, because it can simply be implied that the evidence wasn't acceptable.  If it's defined ahead of time, then I have criteria for any evidence I would need to assert if I choose to.

Evidence consists of observations and experimental results that serve to support, refute, or modify a hypothesis or theory when collected and rationally scrutinized according to the scientific method. I think everyone here will agree that these are the criteria for determining if what you wish to present can be judged to be valid evidence.

Now, make your case.

(December 29, 2018 at 10:03 am)Grandizer Wrote: T0 Th3 M4X, just give us what you think is good enough evidence for supernaturalism, and let us judge if it makes for good evidence or not. When you continue to not provide anything to evaluate, then we're justified in thinking you're dodging the challenge because you aren't able to meet it (because there is no conclusive evidence for God).

Think I'm wrong? Make an effort, and provide the evidence. Or just be humble and admit you don't have [good] evidence for God but that you just choose to believe in God only because it makes sense to you. If you say that, I'll have a lot of respect for you because nothing is more pleasing than when the person I'm interacting with is being as intellectually honest as one can be.

Sorry, I don't play this game and I already explained why.  I'm not required to provide you anything.  If I'm wrong, what am I required to provide?  By what authority do I have that requirement?

Unless you state what evidence would need to be, then you can't accomplish anything because there's no way to examine/confirm anything objectively.


#1 If I give you a stick, and you say the stick wasn't good enough, then it's dismissed on the basis of subjectivity.

#2 If you say you need a stick, and I hand you a stick, then that's it.  It's objective.  Either I handed you a stick or I didn't.


#2 is how I operate, which is why I said I will only humor the question if it's done objectively.  If not, I have 0 interest and will gladly exit he conversation.  Cheers.

I feel all warm and fuzzy inside now.

I need a supernatural stick.
Can you show me one ?

I have all the evidence you ever need.

Come on down to the mountains of East Tennessee. Hike up there early in the morning stand on the edge of the cliff and listen to the birds chirping, watch the foxes darting through the grass and watch the sun rise, poking his bright little head out from behind the clouds.

You look at that and tell me the lord God doesn't exist. Go on and do it!

(December 30, 2018 at 12:34 am)ResoluteBaptist Wrote: I have all the evidence you ever need.

Come on down to the mountains of East Tennessee. Hike up there early in the morning stand on the edge of the cliff and listen to the birds chirping, watch the foxes darting through the grass and watch the sun rise, poking his bright little head out from behind the clouds.

You look at that and tell me the lord God doesn't exist. Go on and do it!

Go to the war torn regions of the Congo and watch as children starve to death or slowly die from disease.

Hell go into a local hospital in Tennessee and visit children who are terminally ill.
Spend some time doing hospice work with aids patients.

There are parasites and bacterial infections that will make your stomach retch.

Everything you see is all part of nature, as wonderful and wicked as it gets.

No gods needed.

(December 30, 2018 at 12:34 am)ResoluteBaptist Wrote: I have all the evidence you ever need.

Come on down to the mountains of East Tennessee. Hike up there early in the morning stand on the edge of the cliff and listen to the birds chirping, watch the foxes darting through the grass and watch the sun rise, poking his bright little head out from behind the clouds.

You look at that and tell me the lord God doesn't exist. Go on and do it!

While others have already adressed the theme of this post.

Hello!      BTW.

I'll just add.






 If there is a diety? They got some e'splainin' ta do.

Not at work.