(February 14, 2019 at 7:12 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(February 13, 2019 at 9:15 pm)Yonadav Wrote: It's not a dichotomy. Brian's doesn't care about people being killed unless they are being killed by one of his hobbyhorse issues. That he doesn't give a shit about people being killed by cars is just one example of many things that Brian doesn't care about. Guns are just a Mount Moral that Brian that uses to take selfies on.

And that's just a smokescreen.  

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A quick reminder. US servicemen are sworn to protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Drunks with guns against armored forces. That would be fun to watch.

Drunks with guns against armed forces? I have no idea what you're going on about.

(February 14, 2019 at 7:19 am)Yonadav Wrote:

(February 14, 2019 at 7:12 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And that's just a smokescreen.  

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A quick reminder. US servicemen are sworn to protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Drunks with guns against armored forces. That would be fun to watch.

Drunks with guns against armed forces? I have no idea what you're going on about.

I refer to the claim that confiscation of guns would start an armed insurrection in this country.

(February 14, 2019 at 7:12 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(February 13, 2019 at 9:15 pm)Yonadav Wrote: It's not a dichotomy. Brian's doesn't care about people being killed unless they are being killed by one of his hobbyhorse issues. That he doesn't give a shit about people being killed by cars is just one example of many things that Brian doesn't care about. Guns are just a Mount Moral that Brian that uses to take selfies on.

And that's NJjust a smokescreen.  

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A quick reminder. US servicemen are sworn to protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Drunks with guns against armored forces. That would be fun to watch.

I thought that every service member knows the Knott Amendment - commonly known as Posse Comitatus Act.


How is it you' re ignorant of this doctrine?

And when are the military allowed to operate to enforce the laws of the land on US soil?

(February 14, 2019 at 7:29 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(February 14, 2019 at 7:19 am)Yonadav Wrote: Drunks with guns against armed forces? I have no idea what you're going on about.

I refer to the claim that confiscation of guns would start an armed insurrection in this country.

Yeah, there would be an insurrection. You're just silly enough to imagine that it would be drunk hillbillies fighting the military.

(February 14, 2019 at 7:42 am)Yonadav Wrote:

(February 14, 2019 at 7:29 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I refer to the claim that confiscation of guns would start an armed insurrection in this country.

Yeah, there would be an insurrection. You're just silly enough to imagine that it would be drunk hillbillies fighting the military.

Who the fuck would be fighting the Army, please?

'Ardent gunners' claim they would fight confiscation. That means they are willing to disrupt the United States in order to retain their toys. They're willing to put their families, their communities, their states in a fight over what they claim is a hobby. That, amigo, is silly.

(February 14, 2019 at 7:47 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(February 14, 2019 at 7:42 am)Yonadav Wrote: Yeah, there would be an insurrection. You're just silly enough to imagine that it would be drunk hillbillies fighting the military.

Who the fuck would be fighting the Army, please?

'Ardent gunners' claim they would fight confiscation. That means they are willing to disrupt the United States in order to retain their toys. They're willing to put their families, their communities, their states in a fight over what they claim is a hobby. That, amigo, is silly.

I don't know. Who would be fighting the army? If I were running an insurrection, I'd avoid fighting the army as much as possible.

(February 14, 2019 at 7:51 am)Yonadav Wrote:

(February 14, 2019 at 7:47 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Who the fuck would be fighting the Army, please?

'Ardent gunners' claim they would fight confiscation. That means they are willing to disrupt the United States in order to retain their toys. They're willing to put their families, their communities, their states in a fight over what they claim is a hobby. That, amigo, is silly.

I don't know. Who would be fighting the army? If I were running an insurrection, I'd avoid fighting the army as much as possible.

Then you wouldn't be one of the people who claim they would fight to keep their guns, now wouldn't you.

(February 14, 2019 at 7:41 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And when are the military allowed to operate to enforce the laws of the land on US soil?

Long story short - they're not.
And before you dribble on yourself spouting " exceptions! Exceptions!" ---
The simple fact is - if a President TRIED using Army troops on US soil, in armed conflict -against US citizens he' d very rapidly find himself on the wrong end of a gun - wielded by the very troops he ordered.
Any REAL service member, or former service member knows this.

(February 14, 2019 at 7:58 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(February 14, 2019 at 7:51 am)Yonadav Wrote: I don't know. Who would be fighting the army? If I were running an insurrection, I'd avoid fighting the army as much as possible.

Then you wouldn't be one of the people who claim they would fight to keep their guns, now wouldn't you.

I suppose the IF I were a participant in the insurrection, then I would be fighting against a government that didn't respect the constitutional rights of its citizens. I would be fighting a tyrannical government that was trying to disarm its citizens. The violation of constitutional rights combined with the effort to disarm the citizenry is a double whammy. We would have no real constitutional rights anymore, and we would be disarmed. I could imagine that being unacceptable to me.

Several people in this discussion have said that they wouldn't hand over their guns. I don't have to fight to keep my guns. I can keep my guns without a fight. But after keeping my guns, there is still the little problem of a government that I will feel has gone rogue.