I have no idea what this thread is now, but I want to say I'm generally against declawing cats. Are we still discussing that?

My sister has a deaf cat (Salt) who she declawed because she would scratch people and (being deaf) was unresponsive to auditory cues. She did not violently scratch. But she did scratch. I debated with my sister that it was perhaps unethical to declaw her, but (in the end) my sister has a 7 year old son. She is in a position to accomodate a deaf cat, but she didn't want her son and others being scratched.

While I think that declawing cats is generally unethical, I also think that there are certain situations (like my sister's cat) in which it might be permissible.

(July 29, 2019 at 8:56 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: Once again, more insults and no attempt to have a conversation. What world do you live in?

You must have lots of friends.

No. I'm so lonely I just want to die. You start slinging shit and then cry when I play in the sandbox. Boohoo, buddy.

Should come to Australia.
Fucken ripped couches everywhere, kids with scratches from head to toe, birds...practically non-existent.
They've taken our rights away. It started with the guns. :-)

Cutting off the claws is bad - but cutting the cat's nuts off is good?

I'll bet the cat wouldn't share that view....


"Claws!! Take the claws!!!"

(July 30, 2019 at 11:55 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Cutting off the claws is bad - but cutting the cat's nuts off is good?

I'll bet the cat wouldn't share that view....


"Claws!! Take the claws!!!"

Well, they don't simply cut off the claws.  The cats' toes are partially amputated.  Sort of like if you were to cure a child's nail-biting by amputating his fingers at the first joint.

Secondly, neutering is good. It increases a cat's life span and makes the animal generally healthier. It also helps to reduce the population of feral cats.

Lastly, animals don't have a 'sex life' as you imagine it.

Boru

(July 30, 2019 at 12:01 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(July 30, 2019 at 11:55 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Cutting off the claws is bad - but cutting the cat's nuts off is good?

I'll bet the cat wouldn't share that view....


"Claws!! Take the claws!!!"

Well, they don't simply cut off the claws.  The cats' toes are partially amputated.  Sort of like if you were to cure a child's nail-biting by amputating his fingers at the first joint.

Secondly, neutering is good. It increases a cat's life span and makes the animal generally healthier. It also helps to reduce the population of feral cats.

Lastly, animals don't have a 'sex life' as you imagine it.

Boru

And you know this because you're a castrated cat?


It IS possible to vasectomize a cat. But people like altering the cat's behavior via surgery.


You can rationalize all you like - but mutilation is mutilation.

You just approve of one and not the other.

(July 30, 2019 at 12:01 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(July 30, 2019 at 11:55 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Cutting off the claws is bad - but cutting the cat's nuts off is good?

I'll bet the cat wouldn't share that view....


"Claws!! Take the claws!!!"

Well, they don't simply cut off the claws.  The cats' toes are partially amputated.  Sort of like if you were to cure a child's nail-biting by amputating his fingers at the first joint.

Secondly, neutering is good. It increases a cat's life span and makes the animal generally healthier. It also helps to reduce the population of feral cats.

Lastly, animals don't have a 'sex life' as you imagine it.

Boru

Obviously we're not talking about YOUR balls.

For good reason. There's a reason we rationalize, such as making rational decisions.

(July 30, 2019 at 12:20 pm)Shell B Wrote: For good reason. There's a reason we rationalize, such as making rational decisions.

Rationalizing is not synonomous with making rational decisions.

More often than not, the reverse is true.

(July 30, 2019 at 12:07 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(July 30, 2019 at 12:01 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, they don't simply cut off the claws.  The cats' toes are partially amputated.  Sort of like if you were to cure a child's nail-biting by amputating his fingers at the first joint.

Secondly, neutering is good. It increases a cat's life span and makes the animal generally healthier. It also helps to reduce the population of feral cats.

Lastly, animals don't have a 'sex life' as you imagine it.

Boru

And you know this because you're a castrated cat?


It IS possible to vasectomize a cat. But people like altering the cat's behavior via surgery.


You can rationalize all you like - but mutilation is mutilation.

You just approve of one and not the other.

Vasectomizing a cat may help reduce feral populations, no doubt about it.  But it doesn't lower the risk of testicular cancer.

The primary difference between neutering and declawing is that neutering has proven benefits to the cat, declawing doesn't.  Quite the contrary - declawing a cat causes back pain and possible atrophy, foot pain, risk of infection, can cause nerve damage and bone spurs, and removes the cat's primary means of defense.

Boru