(August 8, 2019 at 9:30 pm)EgoDeath Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 6:58 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck...

Volumes of nasty remarks and BS lead people to be skeptical of Drich's intentions.  

Honest, genuine, and Drich don't even belong in the same sentence.

I understand, but sometimes people deserve another chance.

Sometimes, some people deserve.

But we are generous.  We’ve given him chances anyway by doing nothing to stop him from showing evidence of repentance.   The only thing we disallow is drich trying to redefine repentance to be something that buys time for drich to do the more of that for which drich is allegedly  repentant.

(August 8, 2019 at 9:30 pm)EgoDeath Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 6:58 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck...

Volumes of nasty remarks and BS lead people to be skeptical of Drich's intentions.  

Honest, genuine, and Drich don't even belong in the same sentence.

I understand, but sometimes people deserve another chance.

Maybe if he starts acting better the tide would turn instead of essentially saying that if people stop being 'mean' to him he will stop with the name calling and other crappy comments.  That's generally not how social interaction works.  

I will pettily suggest that some people don't deserve another chance.

(August 8, 2019 at 10:05 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 9:30 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: I understand, but sometimes people deserve another chance.

Maybe if he starts acting better the tide would turn instead of essentially saying that if people stop being 'mean' to him he will stop with the name calling and other crappy comments.  That's generally not how social interaction works.  

I will pettily suggest that some people don't deserve another chance.

Basically a person who worked himself into a nearly bottomless pit of disrepute don’t get to dictate the terms of how other people would be allowed to interact with him, as if he had an infinite reservoir of stored favors to call in. 

And it adds more to his disrepute when he acts obliviously as if everyone owed him favors to call.

(August 8, 2019 at 10:05 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 9:30 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: I understand, but sometimes people deserve another chance.

Maybe if he starts acting better the tide would turn instead of essentially saying that if people stop being 'mean' to him he will stop with the name calling and other crappy comments.  That's generally not how social interaction works.  

I will pettily suggest that some people don't deserve another chance.

Well, you're certainly petty, if nothing else, but you're not wrong. Not everyone does deserve a second chance.

I too am skeptical of someone's intentions in pleading for another chance at "honest conversation." How many opportunities has he/she had to be honest in the first place?

I remember a relationship I had where I begged for a second chance with her. She told me that if I really respected her I would've treated her right the first time around. i suppose she was right.

Luckily, I never got that second chance. I'm 26 and single. I like it that way. Maybe it's time for Drich to be single. Lol

(August 8, 2019 at 2:28 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: How about you do some research Mr. Three Sources of information.

Gae Bolga...it's there, Google it.

here you go..

It is on the third day that Ferdiad starts to gain the upper hand. At this point, Cúchulainn calls to his charioteer, Laeg, for the Gáe Bolga, which he floats down the river to him. Cúchulainn throws a light spear at Ferdiad's chest, causing him to raise his shield, and then picks up the Gáe Bolga between his toes and thrusts it through his anus upon which the barbs spread throughout his body, killing him. The Gáe Bolga is then removed from Ferdiad's body by Laeg, and Cúchulainn mourns Ferdiad's death, praising his strength and bravery:
"Ah, Ferdiad, betrayed to death.""Our last meeting, oh, how sad!""Thou to die I to remain.""Ever sad our long farewell!"[2][3]
Scholars believe that the fight between Cuchulainn and Ferdiad is a late addition to the Táin, originating not earlier than the eleventh century and drawing on earlier episodes in the story.[citation needed] Ferdiad means "man/warrior of the pair" (Diad related to dïas, "two persons").[citation needed] But can also be read as "Fear" (man) "dia" (god), as opposed to Cúchulainn's position as a literal god-man (being a demigod, his father the chief god Lugh).

Maybe I need to still connect the dots....
Ferdiad was the son of cuchulainn. Cuch was a god. ferd, wasa son of a god... the gae bologna was the spear who killed a son of a god.

Do you get it now?

Some douche want to be associated with God killing, but instead picks a name who spelling looks like a phonetic version of gay bologna

how about this..

Assume I did research his name maybe back when he first got it, because I do not like not knowing. 

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(August 8, 2019 at 4:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:yeah you pick a name that means god killer in some dead obscure language and I point out it phonetically reads like  you are labeling yourself after a gay man's penis.

First, Irish is neither dead nor obscure.

Secondly, the name doesn't mean 'god killer'.  There are several translations (the most usual is 'belly spear'), but none of them come close to what you seem to think. (the closest thing I can think of to 'god killer' is dia dúnmharfóir).

Third and lastly, you are a liar without shame.  See arewethereyet's post.

Boru

...unless you are irish and lived in the 12th century..

No one believes this stuff who are you trying to fool?

No one teaches this stuff again unless you live there or have some family tradition or tie. this is not MAINSTREAM lore by any stretch hence it is a dead. the use of spears as a weapon of combat is dead. let alone fashioning them from whale bones and hairs from a goddess. Nothing about this represents modern day myths or story telling. why? because this again is a 12th century tome which has seen it's day and in only kept alive in discussions like this. so yeah like it or not it is dead.

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(August 8, 2019 at 5:09 pm)LastPoet Wrote: TIL. I am not well versed in Irish, except for beer. I did figure out Gae Bolga as something Irish. For Gae's record it was a decent assumption.

wow I always thought gae stuff originated in france..

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(August 8, 2019 at 5:13 pm)EgoDeath Wrote:

(August 6, 2019 at 11:03 am)Drich Wrote: you are right in that i do care far too much about how i am seen simply as a matter of trying to maintain a balance of integrity and the freedom to push back. often times I'm told I push back too hard ,and don't give these guys a fair chance. before my first thread it had been over a month since the last topic.. just wanted to see if there was anything i could do to spark a real conversation again.

Well, don't be surprised if people are skeptical of your intentions. People tend to believe what they want about you regardless of how honest and genuine you are.

which is why I like to mix it up with some puns and jokes.. but as you say people will see what they want. me being honest=right wing bigot. me being genuine= right wing liar/bigot. me being funny, right wing racist bigot.  

It is what it is here, and to a degree I understand. because if they do not allow me to ever move past these lables they would have to contend with the other content I bring to the table.

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(August 8, 2019 at 6:58 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 5:13 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: Well, don't be surprised if people are skeptical of your intentions. People tend to believe what they want about you regardless of how honest and genuine you are.

If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck...

Volumes of nasty remarks and BS lead people to be skeptical of Drich's intentions.  

Honest, genuine, and Drich don't even belong in the same sentence.

can you provide specific examples of me being dishonest?

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(August 8, 2019 at 9:32 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Drich needs another chance everytime he posts, lol.

to be honest that is the only reason I sek to you or anyone else who has called my wife a crack whore. because I give you a new chance every single time you post.

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(August 8, 2019 at 9:59 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 9:30 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: I understand, but sometimes people deserve another chance.

Sometimes, some people deserve.

But we are generous.  We’ve given him chances anyway by doing nothing to stop him from showing evidence of repentance.   The only thing we disallow is drich trying to redefine repentance to be something that buys time for drich to do the more of that for which drich is allegedly  repentant.

examples of this generosity? please provide a link and or post number.

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(August 8, 2019 at 10:09 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 10:05 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Maybe if he starts acting better the tide would turn instead of essentially saying that if people stop being 'mean' to him he will stop with the name calling and other crappy comments.  That's generally not how social interaction works.  

I will pettily suggest that some people don't deserve another chance.

Basically a person who worked himself into a nearly bottomless pit of disrepute don’t get to dictate the terms of how other people would be allowed to interact with him, as if he had an infinite reservoir of stored favors to call in. 

And it adds more to his disrepute when he acts obliviously as if everyone owed him favors to call.

this problem only seems to be isolated to one very small and dark corner of my life. even in other places like this where this specific group is not.. I do not have the trouble that I have here.

which would indicate it is a specific problem i have with a specific set of people and or how or what they think of me.

(August 9, 2019 at 10:11 am)Drich Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 2:28 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: How about you do some research Mr. Three Sources of information.

Gae Bolga...it's there, Google it.

here you go..

It is on the third day that Ferdiad starts to gain the upper hand. At this point, Cúchulainn calls to his charioteer, Laeg, for the Gáe Bolga, which he floats down the river to him. Cúchulainn throws a light spear at Ferdiad's chest, causing him to raise his shield, and then picks up the Gáe Bolga between his toes and thrusts it through his anus upon which the barbs spread throughout his body, killing him. The Gáe Bolga is then removed from Ferdiad's body by Laeg, and Cúchulainn mourns Ferdiad's death, praising his strength and bravery:
"Ah, Ferdiad, betrayed to death.""Our last meeting, oh, how sad!""Thou to die I to remain.""Ever sad our long farewell!"[2][3]
Scholars believe that the fight between Cuchulainn and Ferdiad is a late addition to the Táin, originating not earlier than the eleventh century and drawing on earlier episodes in the story.[citation needed] Ferdiad means "man/warrior of the pair" (Diad related to dïas, "two persons").[citation needed] But can also be read as "Fear" (man) "dia" (god), as opposed to Cúchulainn's position as a literal god-man (being a demigod, his father the chief god Lugh).

Maybe I need to still connect the dots....
Ferdiad was the son of cuchulainn. Cuch was a god. ferd, wasa son of a god... the gae bologna was the spear who killed a son of a god.

Do you get it now?

Some douche want to be associated with God killing, but instead picks a name who spelling looks like a phonetic version of gay bologna

how about this..

Assume I did research his name maybe back when he first got it, because I do not like not knowing. 

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(August 8, 2019 at 4:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: First, Irish is neither dead nor obscure.

Secondly, the name doesn't mean 'god killer'.  There are several translations (the most usual is 'belly spear'), but none of them come close to what you seem to think. (the closest thing I can think of to 'god killer' is dia dúnmharfóir).

Third and lastly, you are a liar without shame.  See arewethereyet's post.

Boru

...unless you are irish and lived in the 12th century..

No one believes this stuff who are you trying to fool?

No one teaches this stuff again unless you live there or have some family tradition or tie. this is not MAINSTREAM lore by any stretch hence it is a dead. the use of spears as a weapon of combat is dead. let alone fashioning them from whale bones and hairs from a goddess. Nothing about this represents modern day myths or story telling. why? because this again is a 12th century tome which has seen it's day and in only kept alive in discussions like this. so yeah like it or not it is dead.

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(August 8, 2019 at 5:09 pm)LastPoet Wrote: TIL. I am not well versed in Irish, except for beer. I did figure out Gae Bolga as something Irish. For Gae's record it was a decent assumption.

wow I always thought gae stuff originated in france..

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(August 8, 2019 at 5:13 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: Well, don't be surprised if people are skeptical of your intentions. People tend to believe what they want about you regardless of how honest and genuine you are.

which is why I like to mix it up with some puns and jokes.. but as you say people will see what they want. me being honest=right wing bigot. me being genuine= right wing liar/bigot. me being funny, right wing racist bigot.  

It is what it is here, and to a degree I understand. because if they do not allow me to ever move past these lables they would have to contend with the other content I bring to the table.

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(August 8, 2019 at 6:58 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck...

Volumes of nasty remarks and BS lead people to be skeptical of Drich's intentions.  

Honest, genuine, and Drich don't even belong in the same sentence.

can you provide specific examples of me being dishonest?

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(August 8, 2019 at 9:32 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Drich needs another chance everytime he posts, lol.

to be honest that is the only reason I sek to you or anyone else who has called my wife a crack whore. because I give you a new chance every single time you post.

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(August 8, 2019 at 9:59 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Sometimes, some people deserve.

But we are generous.  We’ve given him chances anyway by doing nothing to stop him from showing evidence of repentance.   The only thing we disallow is drich trying to redefine repentance to be something that buys time for drich to do the more of that for which drich is allegedly  repentant.

examples of this generosity? please provide a link and or post number.

The fact that you are allowed to make this very post, to say nothing of the fact people condescend to acknowledge its existence.

Bored now.

(August 8, 2019 at 9:30 pm)EgoDeath Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 6:58 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck...

Volumes of nasty remarks and BS lead people to be skeptical of Drich's intentions.  

Honest, genuine, and Drich don't even belong in the same sentence.

I understand, but sometimes people deserve another chance.

It is not the second nor third chance with Drich. I lost count.

(August 9, 2019 at 12:19 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 9:30 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: I understand, but sometimes people deserve another chance.

It is not the second nor third chance with Drich. I lost count.

No I totally get it and I'm not saying you guys are wrong. Just thinking out loud here. I personally have very little patience to debate with any theists anymore. It's the same old tired arguments spun by the same old rhetoric.

Quote:here you go..

It is on the third day that Ferdiad starts to gain the upper hand. At this point, Cúchulainn calls to his charioteer, Laeg, for the Gáe Bolga, which he floats down the river to him. Cúchulainn throws a light spear at Ferdiad's chest, causing him to raise his shield, and then picks up the Gáe Bolga between his toes and thrusts it through his anus upon which the barbs spread throughout his body, killing him. The Gáe Bolga is then removed from Ferdiad's body by Laeg, and Cúchulainn mourns Ferdiad's death, praising his strength and bravery:
"Ah, Ferdiad, betrayed to death.""Our last meeting, oh, how sad!""Thou to die I to remain.""Ever sad our long farewell!"[2][3]
Scholars believe that the fight between Cuchulainn and Ferdiad is a late addition to the Táin, originating not earlier than the eleventh century and drawing on earlier episodes in the story.[citation needed] Ferdiad means "man/warrior of the pair" (Diad related to dïas, "two persons").[citation needed] But can also be read as "Fear" (man) "dia" (god), as opposed to Cúchulainn's position as a literal god-man (being a demigod, his father the chief god Lugh).

Maybe I need to still connect the dots....
Ferdiad was the son of cuchulainn. Cuch was a god. ferd, wasa son of a god... the gae bologna was the spear who killed a son of a god.

Do you get it now?

Some douche want to be associated with God killing, but instead picks a name who spelling looks like a phonetic version of gay bologna

how about this..

Assume I did research his name maybe back when he first got it, because I do not like not knowing. 

You've got a lot of this wrong.  Firstly, Cu Chulainn and Ferdiad were foster brothers, not father and son. Cu Chulainn was the son of a god, Ferdiad was mortal. You explanation might actually work if Ferdiad had killed Cu Chulainn, not the other way round.

But none of this changes the fact that you go the meaning of the spear's name wrong.  You instead opted for a childish, homophobic reading of an Irish name as it appears in English. You're very stupid.

Quote:No one teaches this stuff again unless you live there or have some family tradition or tie. this is not MAINSTREAM lore by any stretch hence it is a dead. the use of spears as a weapon of combat is dead. let alone fashioning them from whale bones and hairs from a goddess. Nothing about this represents modern day myths or story telling. why? because this again is a 12th century tome which has seen it's day and in only kept alive in discussions like this. so yeah like it or not it is dead.

Clearly, this is something else you failed to research.  Over 300 primary and secondary schools in Ireland operate in Irish.  Irish courses are mandatory in every school in the Republic of Ireland. It is one of the 24 official languages of the EU. About 25% of the population in Ireland understands Irish in either written or spoken form. Irish language courses are offered at more than 53 universities internationally.  Most Irish newspapers have an Irish language section either daily or weekly.  Every radio and television station in Ireland includes Irish language programming.

Hardly dead or obscure.  Try to be less provincial.

Boru