The rules are simple -- pick a date, your vote must be public, must be made before the close of October, and cannot be changed for any reason.  Dates can ran from November 1, 2019 up through Inauguration Day, in January 2021 (for those who wish to play but who think that Trump will lose the 2020 election but not be impeached) and even to January 2025 (for those who think that Trump will win in 2020).  Play is absolutely free, and the prize will consist of absolutely nothing, except for fun, entertainment and discussion.  I, your friendly host, will update this OP with your picks!  Remember, one choice only!!

Any takers?

P.S. As the rules of the board will not allow for edits after 2 hours, updates will be posted after the last thread post. And, if Trump resigns, that date will count, also. Whoever is closest, before or after, wins!! And, any votes made within 30 days prior to Trump's departure from office do not count. (No last minute "cheaters".)

June 19th. 2020.

Official Impeachment articles being passed? Using the Clinton impeachment timeline as a guideline, I'd say December 7, 2019.

Impeached as in removed from office? With a 67% supermajority in the senate needed for conviction, 52% of Senators being Republican, and 0% openly supporting impeachment. I'd have to say "never."

Resignation? Nixon resigned because he realised there was a good chance he'd be impeached and convicted. Trump knows that the Republican majority will stick by him even if he eviscerated and sodomised (and in that order) Vince Neil on C-SPAN, so I'll say that this is unlikely.

If they actually impeach him - I will feel like we all won a lottery.

(September 29, 2019 at 8:12 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: If they actually impeach him - I will feel like we all won a lottery.

I am going to go with Friday, March 6, 2020, which, I believe, will be the day that Trump leaves office.  Here's what we have so far:

Chimp3 -- June 19th. 2020.
Jehanne (me) -- March 6, 2020.

And, yes, "impeachment" means Trump leaving office; sorry for the confusion.

(September 29, 2019 at 8:23 pm)Jehanne Wrote: And, yes, "impeachment" means Trump leaving office; sorry for the confusion.

Yeah, it's worth noting that, of all the heads of state to be impeached, two of the three to not be leave office were American Presidents, and Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were both acquitted. The third was Boris Yeltsin, who point-blank refused to leave office. It seems that American democracy is uniquely impervious to impeachment proceedings, even when those people who could impeach him haven't consistently chosen the person under impeachment over the rule of law.

To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin in 1776, You talk as if successful impeachment were the rule. It's never been done before. No president has ever been cast off from the White House in the history of the United States.

(September 29, 2019 at 9:37 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(September 29, 2019 at 8:23 pm)Jehanne Wrote: And, yes, "impeachment" means Trump leaving office; sorry for the confusion.

Yeah, it's worth noting that, of all the heads of state to be impeached, two of the three to not be leave office were American Presidents, and Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were both acquitted. The third was Boris Yeltsin, who point-blank refused to leave office. It seems that American democracy is uniquely impervious to impeachment proceedings, even when those people who could impeach him haven't consistently chosen the person under impeachment over the rule of law.

To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin in 1776, You talk as if successful impeachment were the rule. It's never been done before. No president has ever been cast off from the White House in the history of the United States.

Nixon was a clear exception; he would not have resigned otherwise.

(September 29, 2019 at 9:38 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(September 29, 2019 at 9:37 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Yeah, it's worth noting that, of all the heads of state to be impeached, two of the three to not be leave office were American Presidents, and Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were both acquitted. The third was Boris Yeltsin, who point-blank refused to leave office. It seems that American democracy is uniquely impervious to impeachment proceedings, even when those people who could impeach him haven't consistently chosen the person under impeachment over the rule of law.

To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin in 1776, You talk as if successful impeachment were the rule. It's never been done before. No president has ever been cast off from the White House in the history of the United States.

Nixon was a clear exception; he would not have resigned otherwise.

Nixon has far more in the way of scruples than Trump does. And remember how Nixon's lawyer told the Supreme Court, "The President wants me to argue that he is as powerful a monarch as Louis XIV, only four years at a time, and is not subject to the processes of any court in the land except the court of impeachment." Trump's legal counsel has consistently argued much the same thing, without even saying "this is what he wants me to say", and literally the only thing he's demurred on is that he might not even be subject to the court of impeachment.

Even if I won this lottery, I would still be a loser. Pre-election I predicted Trumpass would be evicted within 6 months. I was wrong! I also predicted Trumpass would be a source of comedy gold! I was right about that!

(September 29, 2019 at 9:38 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(September 29, 2019 at 9:37 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Yeah, it's worth noting that, of all the heads of state to be impeached, two of the three to not be leave office were American Presidents, and Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were both acquitted. The third was Boris Yeltsin, who point-blank refused to leave office. It seems that American democracy is uniquely impervious to impeachment proceedings, even when those people who could impeach him haven't consistently chosen the person under impeachment over the rule of law.

To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin in 1776, You talk as if successful impeachment were the rule. It's never been done before. No president has ever been cast off from the White House in the history of the United States.

Nixon was a clear exception; he would not have resigned otherwise.

Nixon was never impeached.  He resigned before the vote to impeach took place.

Prediction:  The situation with Trump will be slightly different.  Over the next several months, there will be a slow but inexorable shift among Senate Republicans, and the 67 majority will be reached. He will be successfully impeached by the House, but will resign before the Senate trial.  He will leave office on or before 30 April 2020.
 

Boru