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Impeachment Lottery?
#11
RE: Impeachment Lottery?
(September 30, 2019 at 4:08 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 29, 2019 at 9:38 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Nixon was a clear exception; he would not have resigned otherwise.

Nixon was never impeached.  He resigned before the vote to impeach took place.

Prediction:  The situation with Trump will be slightly different.  Over the next several months, there will be a slow but inexorable shift among Senate Republicans, and the 67 majority will be reached. He will be successfully impeached by the House, but will resign before the Senate trial.  He will leave office on or before 30 April 2020.
 

Boru

There won’t be any inexorable shift unless there is first a critical mass of Republican who already shifted.  There won’t be any critical mass of Republicans who already shift unless there is first a inexorable shift amongst republicans.   Shift for most republicans will be seen as the last option and really no option at all, because successful impeachment and trial will vastly discredit the right wing media and thereby deprive each one of them of the oxygen that sustains a most national Republican political careers.  

Republicans will gamble instead on the successful theft of the next election, after which they can confidently exhibit their fealty to trumpism in the senate.
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#12
RE: Impeachment Lottery?
(September 30, 2019 at 10:28 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(September 30, 2019 at 4:08 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Nixon was never impeached.  He resigned before the vote to impeach took place.

Prediction:  The situation with Trump will be slightly different.  Over the next several months, there will be a slow but inexorable shift among Senate Republicans, and the 67 majority will be reached. He will be successfully impeached by the House, but will resign before the Senate trial.  He will leave office on or before 30 April 2020.
 

Boru

There won’t be any inexorable shift unless there is first a critical mass of Republican who already shifted.  There won’t be any critical mass of Republicans who already shift unless there is first a inexorable shift amongst republicans.   Shift for most republicans will be seen as the last option and really no option at all, because successful impeachment and trial will vastly discredit the right wing media and thereby deprive each one of them of the oxygen that sustains a most national Republican political careers.  

Republicans will gamble instead on the successful theft of the next election, after which they can confidently exhibit their fealty to trumpism in the senate.

Yeah, this is a party that made abundantly clear that they would rather let the Supreme Court die off than let the balance of power shift away from them. For the longest time, there was just one Republican Congressperson willing to stand up against Trump. Now there's zero, because Amash became an independent on the Fourth of July this year.
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#13
RE: Impeachment Lottery?
(September 30, 2019 at 10:28 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(September 30, 2019 at 4:08 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Nixon was never impeached.  He resigned before the vote to impeach took place.

Prediction:  The situation with Trump will be slightly different.  Over the next several months, there will be a slow but inexorable shift among Senate Republicans, and the 67 majority will be reached. He will be successfully impeached by the House, but will resign before the Senate trial.  He will leave office on or before 30 April 2020.
 

Boru

There won’t be any inexorable shift unless there is first a critical mass of Republican who already shifted.  There won’t be any critical mass of Republicans who already shift unless there is first a inexorable shift amongst republicans.   Shift for most republicans will be seen as the last option and really no option at all, because successful impeachment and trial will vastly discredit the right wing media and thereby deprive each one of them of the oxygen that sustains a most national Republican political careers.  

Republicans will gamble instead on the successful theft of the next election, after which they can confidently exhibit their fealty to trumpism in the senate.

It's already begun.  Around 25% of rank-and-file republicans support the impeachment process, and a small grumbling has started among republican senators.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#14
RE: Impeachment Lottery?
(September 30, 2019 at 11:53 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 30, 2019 at 10:28 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: There won’t be any inexorable shift unless there is first a critical mass of Republican who already shifted.  There won’t be any critical mass of Republicans who already shift unless there is first a inexorable shift amongst republicans.   Shift for most republicans will be seen as the last option and really no option at all, because successful impeachment and trial will vastly discredit the right wing media and thereby deprive each one of them of the oxygen that sustains a most national Republican political careers.  

Republicans will gamble instead on the successful theft of the next election, after which they can confidently exhibit their fealty to trumpism in the senate.

It's already begun.  Around 25% of rank-and-file republicans support the impeachment process, and a small grumbling has started among republican senators.

Boru

Around 25% of the republicans did not support trump in 2016, trump still won, leveraged the win into complete subjugation of the GOP, successfully marginalized and ostracized, both  politically and at grass root level, all those from the former GOP who would not be completely enslaved.  Republicans have for 30 years advocated ganging up on anyone who is not wholly aligned and making no concession to their needs or concerns whatsoever.   These who have delighted in ganging up also live in mortal fear of being ganged up on.    That fact will dominate the calculus of most of the elected republicans though the next election.

Trump had shown the conventional wisdom about political decorum, sensibility, and both the real as oppose to legal basis and justification of American form of government to be without foundation.   Until a new theory of how the social political construct of the US two party system of governance actually works is established and considered validated by experience,  Republicans will live in a box whose length and width are defined by sycophantic admiration and mortal terror of trump.   Few if any will seriously contemplating the possible existence of a world outside that box so long as the political trump lives.
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#15
RE: Impeachment Lottery?
(September 30, 2019 at 11:53 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 30, 2019 at 10:28 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: There won’t be any inexorable shift unless there is first a critical mass of Republican who already shifted.  There won’t be any critical mass of Republicans who already shift unless there is first a inexorable shift amongst republicans.   Shift for most republicans will be seen as the last option and really no option at all, because successful impeachment and trial will vastly discredit the right wing media and thereby deprive each one of them of the oxygen that sustains a most national Republican political careers.  

Republicans will gamble instead on the successful theft of the next election, after which they can confidently exhibit their fealty to trumpism in the senate.

It's already begun.  Around 25% of rank-and-file republicans support the impeachment process, and a small grumbling has started among republican senators.

Boru

And if I recall correctly, didn't this support hinge on a secret ballot?
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#16
RE: Impeachment Lottery?
(September 30, 2019 at 12:20 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(September 30, 2019 at 11:53 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It's already begun.  Around 25% of rank-and-file republicans support the impeachment process, and a small grumbling has started among republican senators.

Boru

And if I recall correctly, didn't this support hinge on a secret ballot?

Yes, they would like you to know the reason why they are not doing the right thing for the country is the creepy people of this country has the gall to watch them.
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