Of course DNA has an encoder;



RAmen

(December 3, 2019 at 2:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: [quote='Yukon_Jack' pid='1945297'
Just give one other example of nature being able to produce a code at all. Never mind one with a translation mechanism and error correction, I don’t want to burden you with that part. Just one and I’ll become an atheist

Brewer gave you exactly what you asked for (more actually, since you were given two).  And now this isn't good enough.  You want DNA denounced as a code.

You want DNA to be a code.  Fine, let's call it a code.  TWO other codes produced by nature have been presented to you.  You are now an atheist. 

Boru
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No he gave me links to prime numbers and the fibanacci series which describes a ratio.
Neither of these has an arbitrary sequence that gets decoded nor translated upon an agreed upon set of rules, like DNA

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Quote:I accept that DNA is code. I'll give you that one. I understand that it is complex and there isn't anything like it in nature.
Snowflakes are complex and unique unto themselves but they, like DNA, are created through emergent properties of physics.

Now define your God and explain the mechanism by which you understand it to exist.

Well then you and polymath contradict ea other, He says categorically that DNA is not a code!

Snowflakes are the result of property of physics , they do not get decoded thus are in no way a code

(December 3, 2019 at 5:01 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote:

(December 3, 2019 at 2:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Brewer gave you exactly what you asked for (more actually, since you were given two).  And now this isn't good enough.  You want DNA denounced as a code.

You want DNA to be a code.  Fine, let's call it a code.  TWO other codes produced by nature have been presented to you.  You are now an atheist. 

Boru

No he gave me links to prime numbers and the fibanacci series which describes a ratio.
Neither of these has an arbitrary sequence that gets decoded nor translatedupon an agreed upon set of rules, like DNA

Oh, gosh, that's right.  It isn't as if you said something like

Quote:Just give one other example of nature being able to produce a code at all.  Never mind one with a translation mechanism and error correction,  I don't want to burden you with that part. Just one and I’ll become an atheist

It would be really, REALLY bad for my position if the articles didn't refer to the sequences specifically as 'codes', you know, saying things like

Quote:Nature's hidden prime number code...By tapping into nature's code...this code literally bursts from the ground...These insects are tapping into the code of mathematics for their survival...Despite having cracked so much of nature's code...nature's secret code

[all emphasis mine]

Boru

Dear Creationists, send better.

Hmmm,......... a christian that back slides,............ never seen that before. 

I'll chalk it up to young and foolish rather than intentional deceiver.

At least for now.

(December 3, 2019 at 5:23 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Dear Creationists, send better.

I don't think they can.  Creationists tend to occupy the same level of awfulness.

Boru

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Quote:I accept that DNA is code. I'll give you that one. I understand that it is complex and there isn't anything like it in nature.
Snowflakes are complex and unique unto themselves but they, like DNA, are created through emergent properties of physics.

Now define your God and explain the mechanism by which you understand it to exist.

Well then you and polymath contradict ea other, He says categorically that DNA is not a code!

Snowflakes are the result of property of physics , they do not get decoded thus are in no way a code
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Polymath and I aren't on some team you know. We share nothing other than a lack of belief.

As for Snowflakes I'm not saying it is a code I am just pointing out that they are complex.

Anyway you are clearly a troll just trying to whip us into a froth. Or you are extremely dense.

You should address, directly, the request I made with the information required.

1. Define your God
2. Explain how you know it exists

(December 3, 2019 at 5:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 3, 2019 at 5:23 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Dear Creationists, send better.

I don't think they can.  Creationists tend to occupy the same level of awfulness.

Boru

I think they peak at awful.

Boro, your links fall far short of what a code is, and I think you know it. You grasp at straws trying to compensate, Nothing I have seen you offer corresponds to DNA and it’s abilities.
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DNA transcription is an encoding / decoding mechanism isomorphic with Claude Shannon’s 1948 model: The sequence of base pairs is encoded into messenger RNA which is decoded into proteins.
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And we share 98% of that code with chimpanzees. Dog works in mysterious ways, don't it.