"Oh, we're losing the election? Let's have these other two drop out so that their votes go to me. Now I'm going to demand party unity because boogeyman Trump."

Sorry DNC, but I'm not going to vote for your corrupt asses that rig an election against the only guy willing to actually fix our country.

At least Trump is doing something on trade, which is one of the reasons I support Bernie. Biden's plan is to make things 2016 again, where health insurance premiums increase on the working middle class in moderate and red states that don't want to expand medicare/medicaid. That's not the solution to our healthcare problems.

You fuckers put Biden in there, and I'm staying home again.

#BernieOrBust2020

I will hold my nose and vote for Sanders if he is the nominee. I sure as hell won't like it but I'll do it because I recognize that ANYONE is preferable to Trump.

Unfortunately, so many of you Bernietards are every bit as irrational as Trumptards.

The DNC is rigging the election? How the fuck can they do that, you idiot? They are holding a gun to people's heads and forcing them to vote for Biden? Grow to fuck up. Like it or not, there are centrist democrats (like myself) that are as put-off by far-left candidates as they are by far-right. We won't vote for someone like Sanders in the primary. If Sanders is beaten, it will be because of us - not the DNC. You don't have to agree with us and it's certainly your prerogative to stay home election day if your man isn't the nominee. But you sound like an irrational, petulant child.

Go ahead and enable 4 more years of an evil circus clown over a good man like Joe Biden. I sincerely hope you will get what's coming to you.

I'm in the Bernie or Bust crowd too. Maybe if Tulsi was as popular, I might go for her, but even if Biden won, he's be four years of Obama. and while that's better than Trump, it isn't far enough. Not to mention he's obviously losing it mentally. He's unfit, but that's who the establishment wants.

If Bernie loses again, I may just leave politics altogether, in disgust. When your choices are both shit, it doesn't matter who wins. They all take money from the same donors. Bernie isn't far left. He's the true compromise candidate.

(March 4, 2020 at 10:40 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I will hold my nose and vote for Sanders if he is the nominee. I sure as hell won't like it but I'll do it because I recognize that ANYONE is preferable to Trump.

Unfortunately, so many of you Bernietards are every bit as irrational as Trumptards.

The DNC is rigging the election? How the fuck can they do that, you idiot? They are holding a gun to people's heads and forcing them to vote for Biden? Grow to fuck up. Like it or not, there are centrist democrats (like myself) that are as put-off by far-left candidates as they are by far-right. We won't vote for someone like Sanders in the primary. If Sanders is beaten, it will be because of us - not the DNC. You don't have to agree with us and it's certainly your prerogative to stay home election day if your man isn't the nominee. But you sound like an irrational, petulant child.

Go ahead and enable 4 more years of an evil circus clown over a good man like Joe Biden. I sincerely hope you will get what's coming to you.

Don't call Bernie supporters Bernietards. It makes you look stupid. You sound like my insane conservative uncle.

Fucking Democrats keep blaming their losses on people who don't want to vote for their candidates. It's because Democrats don't vote.

(March 4, 2020 at 10:59 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Even if Biden won, he's be four years of Obama. and while that's better than Trump, it isn't far enough.

So you would stay home if your choice is four more years of Trump or four more years of the equivalent of Obama?

Maybe I need to rethink my philosophy of Secular Humanism. Maybe humans are just fucking idiots who deserve to go extinct.

I've been a Bernie boy since 2015, but, honestly, if Biden is the nominee, I'll vote for him in November. As much as I love him, and as low an opinion as I have of Joe Biden, face the facts: Biden would be the lesser of two evils. There's a lot to criticise Biden over (*inhales deeply so he can get all this in one go* His dodgy attitudes towards race, His long-standing habit of moving very slowly onto the right side of history, his sexual misconduct allegations, His STILL being against legalising weed, Writing the Crime Bill of 1994, And his generally having a hand in every failed policy since at least the eighties to 2008), but there is no possible way for him to be anywhere near as bad as Trump. Sure, he might have done some very questionable things collaborating with segregationists, but these days, Trump is actively courting white nationalists. Literally everything you can criticise Biden for, Trump is doing far worse and far more brazenly. It'll be disappointing as fuck that the Dems can't move beyond Clinton-era policies, but a strict BernieOrBust is a suicide mission the Dems CANNOT AFFORD.

(March 4, 2020 at 11:19 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:

(March 4, 2020 at 10:59 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Even if Biden won, he's be four years of Obama. and while that's better than Trump, it isn't far enough.

So you would stay home if your choice is four more years of Trump or four more years of the equivalent of Obama?

Maybe I need to rethink my philosophy of Secular Humanism. Maybe humans are just fucking idiots who deserve to go extinct.

Yeah. They both suck. Though Trump would likely beat Biden anyway. If the government has to completely collapse before we get our shit together, and start electing people who aren't corrupt, might as well sink the ship sooner, than later.

If they know we'll vote for whatever trash they put out, they have no motivation to actually give us a good candidate. Because we'll just keep settling for the lesser of two evils.

If a potato was the nominee I would vote for it

(March 4, 2020 at 11:18 pm)Shell B Wrote:

(March 4, 2020 at 10:40 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I will hold my nose and vote for Sanders if he is the nominee. I sure as hell won't like it but I'll do it because I recognize that ANYONE is preferable to Trump.

Unfortunately, so many of you Bernietards are every bit as irrational as Trumptards.

The DNC is rigging the election? How the fuck can they do that, you idiot? They are holding a gun to people's heads and forcing them to vote for Biden? Grow to fuck up. Like it or not, there are centrist democrats (like myself) that are as put-off by far-left candidates as they are by far-right. We won't vote for someone like Sanders in the primary. If Sanders is beaten, it will be because of us - not the DNC. You don't have to agree with us and it's certainly your prerogative to stay home election day if your man isn't the nominee. But you sound like an irrational, petulant child.

Go ahead and enable 4 more years of an evil circus clown over a good man like Joe Biden. I sincerely hope you will get what's coming to you.

Don't call Bernie supporters Bernietards. It makes you look stupid.

Really? You have two people here who say they'll stay home if faced with the choice of Trump or Biden. That sounds pretty fucking retarded to me.

I don't have any problem with them preferring Sanders over Biden but this Bernie or bust attitude is just fucking stupid. It's childish. OBVIOUSLY, Joe Biden's ethos is going to more closely match a Sanders supporter's ethos than Trump's - by a wide margin. This is like a child throwing a tantrum because he/she is offered a cookie but not the one they wanted.

(March 4, 2020 at 11:36 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:

(March 4, 2020 at 11:18 pm)Shell B Wrote: Don't call Bernie supporters Bernietards. It makes you look stupid.

Really? You have two people here who say they'll stay home if faced with the choice of Trump or Biden. That sounds pretty fucking retarded to me.

I don't have any problem with them preferring Sanders over Biden but this Bernie or bust attitude is just fucking stupid. It's childish. OBVIOUSLY, Joe Biden's ethos is going to more closely match a Sanders supporter's ethos than Trump's - by a wide margin. This is like a child throwing a tantrum because he/she is offered a cookie but not the one they wanted.

We're not refusing a cookie we don't want. We're handed two pieces of shit. One of which smells slightly better, but is still shit, and expected to eat it anyway. Because we continue eating the less smelly shit, instead of demanding actual food.