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RE: About BLM
July 22, 2020 at 11:35 am
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(July 21, 2020 at 8:02 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Generally when people are murdered we talk about the good points of their lives and praise them . This general rule seems to only be done away with when a black person is killed by the cops .Then any wrong doing of the victim is fodder or worst still implicitly used to justify what happened to them in some twisted "just world "
Our minds digest the world through narrative; events have a protagonist and an antagonist. In a typical murder the narrative is often understood to be a victim (the good guy) being killed by a criminal (the bad guy); these are true almost by definition in the interaction. However, in a police killing like Floyd's you have a situation in which the hero is the perceived villain, and the villain is the perceived hero. The roles are unclear, and people are bound to adopt the Cops and Robbers narrative by default.
It takes work to get out of the Cops and Robbers narrative and reinterpret the roles as reversed. I think this, rather than racial discriminations, explains better why the victims of police killings are viewed as criminals by default--because that is the nature of the interaction.
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RE: About BLM
July 24, 2020 at 1:25 am
Every player and coach on the Yankees & Nationals took a knee before the national anthem tonight in D.C.
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RE: About BLM
July 24, 2020 at 12:15 pm
Wow, that's incredible.
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RE: About BLM
July 24, 2020 at 12:40 pm
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And yet in stark paradox, BLM has zero finite real world objectives/demands, at least that I'm aware of. If society is going so glaringly very very very wrong at large, why can't they identify WHERE it's going so glaringly very very very wrong?
I wonder how many of those baseball pros actually wanted to take a knee and how many were "coerced" into compliance through being petrified of attracting the label of "racist" (just like I have, here, by morons, BTW, without ANY justification). 40% of criminals and 40% of police killings. BLM = SAD as fuck and getting sadder and sadder by the week.
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RE: About BLM
July 24, 2020 at 1:21 pm
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Quote:And yet in stark paradox, BLM has zero finite real world objectives/demands, at least that I'm aware of. If society is going so glaringly very very very wrong at large, why can't they identify WHERE it's going so glaringly very very very wrong?
They already have and they don't need objectives . Sorry their movement doesn't meet your approval. As if they need too
Quote:I wonder how many of those baseball pros actually wanted to take a knee and how many were "coerced" into compliance through being petrified of attracting the label of "racist" (just like I have, here, by morons, BTW, without ANY justification). 40% of criminals and 40% of police killings. BLM = SAD as fuck and getting sadder and sadder by the week.
And delusional rant divorced from reality and the only thing SAD as fuck is you and you get sadder by the week
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RE: About BLM
July 24, 2020 at 7:03 pm
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(July 22, 2020 at 11:35 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (July 21, 2020 at 8:02 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Generally when people are murdered we talk about the good points of their lives and praise them . This general rule seems to only be done away with when a black person is killed by the cops .Then any wrong doing of the victim is fodder or worst still implicitly used to justify what happened to them in some twisted "just world "
Our minds digest the world through narrative; events have a protagonist and an antagonist. In a typical murder the narrative is often understood to be a victim (the good guy) being killed by a criminal (the bad guy); these are true almost by definition in the interaction. However, in a police killing like Floyd's you have a situation in which the hero is the perceived villain, and the villain is the perceived hero. The roles are unclear, and people are bound to adopt the Cops and Robbers narrative by default.
It takes work to get out of the Cops and Robbers narrative and reinterpret the roles as reversed. I think this, rather than racial discriminations, explains better why the victims of police killings are viewed as criminals by default--because that is the nature of the interaction. That may be, but bear in mind, the way Americans perceive crime is still heavily racialised. Just look at the Southern Strategy for some information about how that came to be. Linking black people to crime is just one of the dog whistles they used to help keep the South red, and it’s worked even today. The Three Arrows video I posted in page 2 of this very thread goes into a bit more detail about how this happened.
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RE: About BLM
July 24, 2020 at 10:36 pm
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(July 24, 2020 at 12:40 pm)Lawz-BLM Wrote: And yet in stark paradox, BLM has zero finite real world objectives/demands, at least that I'm aware of. If society is going so glaringly very very very wrong at large, why can't they identify WHERE it's going so glaringly very very very wrong?
I wonder how many of those baseball pros actually wanted to take a knee and how many were "coerced" into compliance through being petrified of attracting the label of "racist" (just like I have, here, by morons, BTW, without ANY justification). 40% of criminals and 40% of police killings. BLM = SAD as fuck and getting sadder and sadder by the week.
It's a small sad world you inhabit, isn't it?
It may surprise you to learn some of us don't need to be "coerced" into doing the right thing.
But do tell me how the America flag wont freedom because baseball man kneeled
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RE: About BLM
July 25, 2020 at 4:03 am
(July 24, 2020 at 10:36 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: (July 24, 2020 at 12:40 pm)Lawz-BLM Wrote: And yet in stark paradox, BLM has zero finite real world objectives/demands, at least that I'm aware of. If society is going so glaringly very very very wrong at large, why can't they identify WHERE it's going so glaringly very very very wrong?
I wonder how many of those baseball pros actually wanted to take a knee and how many were "coerced" into compliance through being petrified of attracting the label of "racist" (just like I have, here, by morons, BTW, without ANY justification). 40% of criminals and 40% of police killings. BLM = SAD as fuck and getting sadder and sadder by the week.
It's a small sad world you inhabit, isn't it?
It may surprise you to learn some of us don't need to be "coerced" into doing the right thing.
But do tell me how the America flag wont freedom because baseball man kneeled
RAmen You see it's the magic song if you don't stand for it the freedom won't happen . It's like a rain dance .
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RE: About BLM
July 25, 2020 at 10:56 am
This time it was entire Orioles team and some Red Sox, kneeling for BLM. Although prior to Anthem.
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RE: About BLM
July 25, 2020 at 11:44 pm
(July 24, 2020 at 12:40 pm)Lawz Wrote: And yet in stark paradox, BLM has zero finite real world objectives/demands, at least that I'm aware of.
They just want someone to be charged for killing Breonna Taylor. Do you think it's going to happen?
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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