(November 5, 2011 at 2:35 pm)ElDinero Wrote: You're fucked up.

Jeez, what was your first clue? The avatar that looks like a pregnant hermaphrodite power rangers cat?

(November 5, 2011 at 4:13 pm)Vaginasaur Wrote:

(November 5, 2011 at 3:57 pm)Cinjin Wrote: (at least not according to any Buddhism I've studied. If you know otherwise, please do direct me to that information.)

The Four Seals of Dharma.

Sorry, had a busy weekend. Where were we ... oh yes ...

Quote:The defining features of Buddhism are THE FOUR SEALS OF THE DHARMA - four statements about the world which form the basis of all Buddhist teachings. The four seals aren't 'revealed truths' which we have to take on trust from some self-proclaimed 'prophet' who claims to have heard the voice of God, they are philosophical statements derived from logic and experience. They are:

(1) Impermanence. All phenomena are subject to change, growth, dissolution and decay. Even the sun, planets and galaxies are changing and will one day cease to exist.

(2) All phenomena are unfindable upon analysis. If you search for the ultimate nature of your car, you won't find it. All you'll find is parts, the causes of those parts coming together, and mental projection or 'imputation' of something that performs the function of a car. Similarly with the ego - the self. The essential nature of the self is as unfindable as the essential nature of a car or Milinda's chariot. 'We are such stuff as dreams are made on'.

(3) Materialistic existence is ultimately unsatisfactory. All emotions based on the three mental poisons of attachment, aversion and ignorance are ultimately painful. You can never have enough worldly possessions, and even if you did you'd worry about losing them since they are all impermanent. And you've got to lose the lot eventually when you shuffle off your coil. All materialistic cravings eventually lead to dissappointment and worse. This is known as dukkha.

(4) The true nature of mind is clarity and peace, 'but whilst this muddy vesture of decay doth grossly close it in' we cannot experience it. The sky-like clarity of the mind is obscured by the thunder clouds of anger, attachment and ignorance. The real nature of the mind is Nirvana - which is NOT nothingness, but the non-conceptual peace 'which passeth all understanding'.

I see NOTHING in there that would give me reason to think that Buddhism coincides with your view on the uselessness of your life. It looks to me like you're interpreting points (2) and (3) for your own goth agenda while ignoring point number (4). Indeed, Buddhism does not promote self-indulgence or the futile attempt to define one's existence, but that does not mean that your outward look on the world is remotely Buddhism, it seems to be rather quite the opposite.

Buddhism is all about understanding and finding true peace so that you can actually enjoy the beauty of life. You don't seem to have any real understanding of Buddhism. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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This is what happens when you don't hug your kids enough.

(November 6, 2011 at 2:13 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Buddhism is all about understanding and finding true peace so that you can actually enjoy the beauty of life. You don't seem to have any real understanding of Buddhism. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nirvana is a state of the non-dualistic mind, I live in a society that relies heavily on ego, everyone is caught up in the rat race, they seek peace but peace can't be obtained through this type of social structure, a Buddhist path is all about obtaining enlightenment and seeing the true nature of your reality.

(November 6, 2011 at 2:22 pm)Vaginasaur Wrote:

(November 6, 2011 at 2:13 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Buddhism is all about understanding and finding true peace so that you can actually enjoy the beauty of life. You don't seem to have any real understanding of Buddhism. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nirvana is a state of the non-dualistic mind, I live in a society that relies heavily on ego, everyone is caught up in the rat race, they seek peace but peace can't be obtained through this type of social structure, a Buddhist path is all about obtaining enlightenment and seeing the true nature of your reality.

Is that Buddhism or Psychology 101? Could you show me exactly where in the Four Seals of the Dharma the term non-dualistic mind is referenced where achieving Nirvana? True, a Buddhist's path is all about obtaining enlightenment, but I still don't think you are remotely practicing Buddhism. What I'm saying is, I'm not reading the words of an enlightened mind ... I'm reading the words of a very distraught goth kid.

(November 6, 2011 at 2:32 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Is that Buddhism or Psychology 101? Could you show me exactly where in the Four Seals of the Dharma the term non-dualistic mind is referenced where achieving Nirvana? True, a Buddhist's path is all about obtaining enlightenment, but I still don't think you are remotely practicing Buddhism. What I'm saying is, I'm not reading the words of an enlightened mind ... I'm reading the words of a very distraught goth kid.

My words conflict with your societal conditioning, you have to drop everything before you can go on a journey of self-discovery.

(November 6, 2011 at 2:50 pm)Vaginasaur Wrote:

(November 6, 2011 at 2:32 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Is that Buddhism or Psychology 101? Could you show me exactly where in the Four Seals of the Dharma the term non-dualistic mind is referenced where achieving Nirvana? True, a Buddhist's path is all about obtaining enlightenment, but I still don't think you are remotely practicing Buddhism. What I'm saying is, I'm not reading the words of an enlightened mind ... I'm reading the words of a very distraught goth kid.

My words conflict with your societal conditioning, you have to drop everything before you can go on a journey of self-discovery.

Talking in circles and not remotely attempting to answer direct questions with direct answers I see. Ok. Thats fine, I'm not really that interested anyway. You should try christianity. With your ignoring questions, side-stepping answers and continued judgements of everyone around you - well, you'd fit right in REAL nice.

Quote:QUESTION IGNORED & NOW REPEATED:
Could you show me exactly where in the Four Seals of the Dharma the term non-dualistic mind is referenced where achieving Nirvana?

I think he was just crying because an Xbox wasn't there instead.