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The Umbrella Academy & Vanya
May 27, 2021 at 2:38 am
Vanya in The Umbrella Academy is played by Elliot Page, the artist formerly known as Ellen Page.
Considering that the Vanya character is a female and that Elliot has transitioned to a male, how are they planning on evolving this character within the series that is currently filming its third season?
Elliot Page Will Continue to Star in ‘Umbrella Academy,’ Netflix Changes Credits on His Past Films
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The Umbrella Academy Season 3 Will Reportedly Address Elliot Page Coming Out
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Quote:Fans can’t wait to see more of Vanya Hargreeves in season 3, but the performer’s announcement has caused concern that he may wish to depart from the show for new creative avenues.
That’s not going to be the case, though, as the streaming giant has confirmed that Page will be back for the next run of the hit comic book adaptation. This has caused people to wonder, though, if the character’s storyline will be impacted by the actor’s own coming out. While that’s not necessary, as we’ve had many cisgender stars play trans roles in the past – so the reverse shouldn’t be an issue – it does sound like it’s something that may happen.
Insider Daniel Richtman recently shared a tidbit he’s heard from his sources on his Patreon page, explaining that he’s been told that season 3 will reflect Page’s own life and that Vanya will come out as trans over the new episodes.
I suppose if the comic book creator is fine with it, it shouldn't be a problem. If it was my intellectual property, however, I wouldn't want a pivotal character of mine changed in such a way. But that's just me.
That said, I support Elliot Page for having the courage to be who he is. When the body and the mind are finally in sync, true happiness can be experienced.
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RE: The Umbrella Academy & Vanya
May 27, 2021 at 3:54 am
And, fortunately, Vanya is actually a boy's name in the original Russian, so it's a surprisingly lucky coincidence.
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RE: The Umbrella Academy & Vanya
May 27, 2021 at 3:55 am
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(May 27, 2021 at 3:54 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: And, fortunately, Vanya is actually a boy's name in the original Russian, so it's a surprisingly lucky coincidence.
Not quite.
Quote:Ваня (Vanya), a male or female diminutive of the Russian, Croatian, Serbian, Bulgarian and other Slavic given names Ivan or Ivana.
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RE: The Umbrella Academy & Vanya
May 27, 2021 at 4:03 am
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(May 27, 2021 at 3:55 am)Eleven Wrote: (May 27, 2021 at 3:54 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: And, fortunately, Vanya is actually a boy's name in the original Russian, so it's a surprisingly lucky coincidence.
Not quite.
Quote:Ваня (Vanya), a male or female diminutive of the Russian, Croatian, Serbian, Bulgarian and other Slavic given names Ivan or Ivana.
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Male, Bi-Gendered, I know that when I read that name in Russian lit, it's always a dude. Then again, I read books with far more Ivans than Ivanas.
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RE: The Umbrella Academy & Vanya
May 27, 2021 at 6:35 am
I'm excited! That does seem to feel like a natural progression for the character, imo.
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RE: The Umbrella Academy & Vanya
May 27, 2021 at 11:28 am
(May 27, 2021 at 3:55 am)Eleven Wrote: (May 27, 2021 at 3:54 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: And, fortunately, Vanya is actually a boy's name in the original Russian, so it's a surprisingly lucky coincidence.
Not quite.
Quote:Ваня (Vanya), a male or female diminutive of the Russian, Croatian, Serbian, Bulgarian and other Slavic given names Ivan or Ivana.
wikipedia
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RE: The Umbrella Academy & Vanya
May 31, 2021 at 1:55 pm
(May 27, 2021 at 2:38 am)Eleven Wrote: Considering that the Vanya character is a female and that Elliot has transitioned to a male, how are they planning on evolving this character within the series that is currently filming its third season?
Who knows. Maybe he'll switch in the show as well because it is usually like that, that characters become more like the actors who play them as the show progresses. One of the famous changes is the Sisko switch from DS9.
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The actor wanted to be bald and with beard from the start, and as the show progressed...
Or maybe Elliot will just wear one of these under his pants
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RE: The Umbrella Academy & Vanya
May 31, 2021 at 2:13 pm
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(May 31, 2021 at 1:55 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Or maybe Elliot will just wear one of these under his pants
I don't think Elliot has had the phalloplasty yet. The top surgery, definitely, but, while I don't have access to Elliot's full-on timeline for transitioning, I think he still has a while before he can do that. He probably still has the vagina, that holdover from his time as The Woman Who Never Was. And, frankly, if Buck Angel and the increasing trend of transpeople who've chosen to not have genital surgery (including at least one of our forumites) is any indication, it's possible Elliot may never actually get rid of it.
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RE: The Umbrella Academy & Vanya
March 30, 2022 at 2:03 pm
Here's your answer, Fox
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