(October 23, 2022 at 12:13 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(October 23, 2022 at 11:39 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course it’s God’s fault. He could just as easily have created only people who, of their own free will, would always ‘do right by him’.

That aside, you’re also missing the point that blasphemy is - in a very real and practical sense - not an offense against God, but against the established order of [insert religion here].

Boru

Have you not considered that God didn't create anything, but that He just rules over everything?

I have not considered either proposition.

Boru

(October 23, 2022 at 1:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(October 23, 2022 at 12:13 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Have you not considered that God didn't create anything, but that He just rules over everything?

I have not considered either proposition.

Boru

Okay.......why not?

(October 23, 2022 at 1:53 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(October 23, 2022 at 1:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I have not considered either proposition.

Boru

Okay.......why not?

It’s the equivalent of wondering whether Santa’s elves actually make all those toys, or if Santa contracts the work out to third-world sweatshops.

Boru

(October 23, 2022 at 2:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(October 23, 2022 at 1:53 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Okay.......why not?

It’s the equivalent of wondering whether Santa’s elves actually make all those toys, or if Santa contracts the work out to third-world sweatshops.

Boru

And you don't think that's a worthwhile thing to consider?

(October 23, 2022 at 2:54 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(October 23, 2022 at 2:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s the equivalent of wondering whether Santa’s elves actually make all those toys, or if Santa contracts the work out to third-world sweatshops.

Boru

And you don't think that's a worthwhile thing to consider?

Of course not. Santa Claus isn’t real.

Boru

(October 23, 2022 at 3:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(October 23, 2022 at 2:54 pm)Ahriman Wrote: And you don't think that's a worthwhile thing to consider?

Of course not. Santa Claus isn’t real.

Boru

Of course not.......but you don't think it would be valid as a hypothetical question?

So many different gods, so little evidence for any of them, makes you wonder what they do all day

(October 23, 2022 at 3:54 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: So many different gods, so little evidence for any of them, makes you wonder what they do all day

WE are the gods. There's one master God who rules over all the other gods, but yeah, we are the gods.

so... is it Zeus? (and if not, then which one and how do you know?)

(October 23, 2022 at 3:53 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(October 23, 2022 at 3:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course not. Santa Claus isn’t real.

Boru

Of course not.......but you don't think it would be valid as a hypothetical question?

No. For it to be valid as a hypothetical question, I would have to consider as valid the hypothesis that Santa Claus is real (that’s what ‘hypothetical’ means).

Boru