(August 28, 2023 at 5:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Boring.  Fuck your p values, I wanna hear some more war crime denials.

I'd like to know more about the p-values of non-existent prisons.

Boru

(August 27, 2023 at 6:33 pm)GrandizerII Wrote:

(August 27, 2023 at 5:40 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: No, I don't see it. Do you agree with me that somebody who says "Fuck off with those p-values, go to Alternativa with them!" both has a mistaken picture of how modern science works and is being a jerk? If not, have you watched the Veritasium's video about why most published research is wrong (explaining how modern science revolves around p-values and what are the upsides and downsides of that)?

What's the context? I feel like there was a lot of things going on in the exchange between you and them that eventually led to this kind of response.

Well, if I remember correctly, that was after he told me "Nobody in mainstream onomastics even mentions p-values. That alone should have made you think." and I responded with "If nobody mentions p-values there, that in the best case means that it is a very soft science, and it probably means it is a pseudoscience.".

(August 28, 2023 at 5:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Boring.  Fuck your p values, I wanna hear some more war crime denials.

If war crimes are real, they are a failure of gun control. Vukovar Massacre and Varivode Massacre couldn't have happened if the civilians had been armed.

(August 28, 2023 at 7:38 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(August 28, 2023 at 5:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Boring.  Fuck your p values, I wanna hear some more war crime denials.

If war crimes are real, they are a failure of gun control. Vukovar Massacre and Varivode Massacre couldn't have happened if the civilians had been armed.

Right, because civilians with pistols and hunting rifles have historically done SO well against professional soldiers with automatic weapons, air support, and artillery.

Boru

(August 28, 2023 at 7:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 28, 2023 at 7:38 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: If war crimes are real, they are a failure of gun control. Vukovar Massacre and Varivode Massacre couldn't have happened if the civilians had been armed.

Right, because civilians with pistols and hunting rifles have historically done SO well against professional soldiers with automatic weapons, air support, and artillery.

Boru

Vukovar Massacre was committed by an illegal army, which probably didn't include many professional soldiers (though I haven't checked that). We don't know who committed the Varivode Massacre, but they probably weren't professional soldiers either.

(August 28, 2023 at 7:38 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(August 28, 2023 at 5:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Boring.  Fuck your p values, I wanna hear some more war crime denials.

If war crimes are real, they are a failure of gun control. Vukovar Massacre and Varivode Massacre couldn't have happened if the civilians had been armed.

Gun Control am Evil. Got it.

(August 28, 2023 at 7:38 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(August 28, 2023 at 5:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Boring.  Fuck your p values, I wanna hear some more war crime denials.

If war crimes are real, they are a failure of gun control. Vukovar Massacre and Varivode Massacre couldn't have happened if the civilians had been armed.

Yeah, because armed civilians can't possibly lead to daily mass shootings. 

(August 28, 2023 at 9:49 am)Ravenshire Wrote:

(August 28, 2023 at 7:38 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: If war crimes are real, they are a failure of gun control. Vukovar Massacre and Varivode Massacre couldn't have happened if the civilians had been armed.

Yeah, because armed civilians can't possibly lead to daily mass shootings. 

Aha, so, the only reason you are not a mass-shooter is because gun control makes it more difficult to get a gun?

How do you explain the fact that Switzerland, a country where the government gives a gun to every male at the age between 18 and 65, doesn't have a lot of mass shootings?

How do you explain the fact that most mass shootings happen in gun-free zones?

(August 28, 2023 at 10:58 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(August 28, 2023 at 9:49 am)Ravenshire Wrote: Yeah, because armed civilians can't possibly lead to daily mass shootings. 

Aha, so, the only reason you are not a mass-shooter is because gun control makes it more difficult to get a gun?

How do you explain the fact that Switzerland, a country where the government gives a gun to every male at the age between 18 and 65, doesn't have a lot of mass shootings?

How do you explain the fact that most mass shootings happen in gun-free zones?

If there is a shooting it's obviously not happening somewhere that really gun-free now is it?

Also, many of these mass shooters pick places where the likelihood of being shot is extremely low - elementary schools, churches, long-distance sniper shoooting.

The UK is mostly gun free, the last mass shooting here was at Dunblane in 1996, after that the rules were tightened up a lot.