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The Real Easter
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The Real Easter
March 31, 2024 at 12:21 pm
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RE: The Real Easter
March 31, 2024 at 12:47 pm
I wonder if it shares some etymology with estrus.

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RE: The Real Easter
March 31, 2024 at 12:57 pm


teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: The Real Easter
March 31, 2024 at 5:29 pm
(March 31, 2024 at 12:47 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I wonder if it shares some etymology with estrus.

It seems that it should, what with Easter's links to renewal and fertility, and I had a sociology teacher once who claimed it did, but it doesn't.
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RE: The Real Easter
March 31, 2024 at 8:18 pm
(March 31, 2024 at 5:29 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:
(March 31, 2024 at 12:47 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I wonder if it shares some etymology with estrus.

It seems that it should, what with Easter's links to renewal and fertility, and I had a sociology teacher once who claimed it did, but it doesn't.
Good old "Sounds a lot alike" fallacy. I thought the same thing for a split second, then laughed.
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RE: The Real Easter
March 31, 2024 at 8:42 pm
(March 31, 2024 at 5:29 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:
(March 31, 2024 at 12:47 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I wonder if it shares some etymology with estrus.

It seems that it should, what with Easter's links to renewal and fertility, and I had a sociology teacher once who claimed it did, but it doesn't.

Anywhere I might read more?

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RE: The Real Easter
March 31, 2024 at 8:57 pm
These folks in NOLA seem to be doing it right.

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RE: The Real Easter
March 31, 2024 at 9:39 pm
(Springy G enters stage left, munching on a piece of chocolate) How are you gentlemen!! All your Easter are belong to Us.
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RE: The Real Easter
April 3, 2024 at 3:15 pm
(March 31, 2024 at 8:42 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(March 31, 2024 at 5:29 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: It seems that it should, what with Easter's links to renewal and fertility, and I had a sociology teacher once who claimed it did, but it doesn't.

Anywhere I might read more?

Etymology of estrus.

Etymology of Easter.

There is a lot written on the etymology of Easter and whether the Easter holiday, as observed today, has it's roots in Christianity of Paganism, and there are many authors still attributing estrus and estrogen to the goddess, but they are mostly ill informed. Christians want to dismiss the pagan roots, while Wiccans (and other pagan groups) decry the theft of their holiday by the Holy Roman Church. The majority of the evidence points to 'both' as the most likely answer. Christianity likely took over the practices of the spring renewal festivals in order to more easily convert those pagan worshipers, much like they did when changing the "proper" day of worship from the 7th day of the week (the Sabbath) to the first day of the week (the Lord's day), oddly enough justified by the alleged resurrection on Sunday) in order to ease conversion of sun worshipers. The general consensus Points to adoption by the church, but it is by no means an overwhelming consensus.

Personally, based on what I've read and what we know about the behavior of the early church, I have little doubt that most major Christian holidays have their roots at least partly in paganism, no matter how many ill informed preacher-men deny it.
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RE: The Real Easter
April 3, 2024 at 5:18 pm
(April 3, 2024 at 3:15 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:
(March 31, 2024 at 8:42 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Anywhere I might read more?

Etymology of estrus.

Etymology of Easter.

There is a lot written on the etymology of Easter and whether the Easter holiday, as observed today, has it's roots in Christianity of Paganism, and there are many authors still attributing estrus and estrogen to the goddess, but they are mostly ill informed. Christians want to dismiss the pagan roots, while Wiccans (and other pagan groups) decry the theft of their holiday by the Holy Roman Church. The majority of the evidence points to 'both' as the most likely answer. Christianity likely took over the practices of the spring renewal festivals in order to more easily convert those pagan worshipers, much like they did when changing the "proper" day of worship from the 7th day of the week (the Sabbath) to the first day of the week (the Lord's day), oddly enough justified by the alleged resurrection on Sunday) in order to ease conversion of sun worshipers. The general consensus Points to adoption by the church, but it is by no means an overwhelming consensus.

Personally, based on what I've read and what we know about the behavior of the early church, I have little doubt that most major Christian holidays have their roots at least partly in paganism, no matter how many ill informed preacher-men deny it.

Thanks for taking the time, bud -- much appreciated.

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