In your opinion, why do some christians who go with that bs "hate the sin love the sinner" (like when someone is not in the type of rl they want them to be or when they go against lgbt folks who did not harm them) yet whine when someone plays back and says "hate the religion, love the religious" 

Like why they a pussy?  Don`t they know that respect is a 2 way street? 


Religions are like fapping, a cope (ofc the latter is much more beta).

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(January 30, 2025 at 5:09 am)AtheismSigma Wrote: In your opinion, why do some christians who go with that bs "hate the sin love the sinner" (like when someone is not in the type of rl they want them to be or when they go against lgbt folks who did not harm them) yet whine when someone plays back and says "hate the religion, love the religious" 

Like why they a pussy?  Don`t they know that respect is a 2 way street? 


Religions are like fapping, a cope (ofc the latter is much more beta).

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I've never heard someone say, "Hate the religion, love the religious.' Did you make that up?

Boru

(January 30, 2025 at 5:16 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(January 30, 2025 at 5:09 am)AtheismSigma Wrote: In your opinion, why do some christians who go with that bs "hate the sin love the sinner" (like when someone is not in the type of rl they want them to be or when they go against lgbt folks who did not harm them) yet whine when someone plays back and says "hate the religion, love the religious" 

Like why they a pussy?  Don`t they know that respect is a 2 way street? 


Religions are like fapping, a cope (ofc the latter is much more beta).

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I've never heard someone say, "Hate the religion, love the religious.' Did you make that up?

Boru

I`ve seen that line on reddit when one religious used the love the sinner

(January 30, 2025 at 5:09 am)AtheismSigma Wrote: In your opinion, why do some christians who go with that bs "hate the sin love the sinner" (like when someone is not in the type of rl they want them to be or when they go against lgbt folks who did not harm them) yet whine when someone plays back and says "hate the religion, love the religious" 

I hadn't heard this before, but it makes a lot of sense to me. 

If we think of religion, as it's propagated and spread, as a sort of indoctrination, then in most cases it's not the fault of the person who's been brainwashed. If we demonstrate that we can treat him well even though we have no religion ourselves, he may learn that his religion isn't the only way to be a good person.

Quote:Don`t they know that respect is a 2 way street? 

I know that this is a very popular moral tenet in the US. Like "I'll treat you with respect if you treat me with respect, but if you're a bitch to me I'll give it right back to you." 

This seems counterproductive to me. I am (or hope to be) moral and well-behaved simply because it is good to be moral and well-behaved. I'm not going to let some jerk control my behavior to the point where I fall to his level. 

Quote:Religions are like fapping, a cope (ofc the latter is much more beta).

Well, maybe. But do you really want to stop people from fapping? I kind of think it's not our duty to give anybody anti-fapping lectures. It's a lot better than some things they could be doing with their energy. 

So, anyway, yeah. There are religious groups and religious teachings I disapprove of, and I wish they'd go away. That doesn't mean I'm going to hate or dehumanize the people in that group. The world has enough people eager to dehumanize others without me doing it too. That easily gets out of hand.

Oh FFS.

(January 30, 2025 at 8:16 am)Belacqua Wrote:

(January 30, 2025 at 5:09 am)AtheismSigma Wrote: In your opinion, why do some christians who go with that bs "hate the sin love the sinner" (like when someone is not in the type of rl they want them to be or when they go against lgbt folks who did not harm them) yet whine when someone plays back and says "hate the religion, love the religious" 

I hadn't heard this before, but it makes a lot of sense to me. 

If we think of religion, as it's propagated and spread, as a sort of indoctrination, then in most cases it's not the fault of the person who's been brainwashed. If we demonstrate that we can treat him well even though we have no religion ourselves, he may learn that his religion isn't the only way to be a good person.

Quote:Don`t they know that respect is a 2 way street? 

I know that this is a very popular moral tenet in the US. Like "I'll treat you with respect if you treat me with respect, but if you're a bitch to me I'll give it right back to you." 

This seems counterproductive to me. I am (or hope to be) moral and well-behaved simply because it is good to be moral and well-behaved. I'm not going to let some jerk control my behavior to the point where I fall to his level. 

Quote:Religions are like fapping, a cope (ofc the latter is much more beta).

Well, maybe. But do you really want to stop people from fapping? I kind of think it's not our duty to give anybody anti-fapping lectures. It's a lot better than some things they could be doing with their energy. 

So, anyway, yeah. There are religious groups and religious teachings I disapprove of, and I wish they'd go away. That doesn't mean I'm going to hate or dehumanize the people in that group. The world has enough people eager to dehumanize others without me doing it too. That easily gets out of hand.

There are some - definitely not all - religionist who can’t be dehumanized, as they aren’t quite human to begin with. A good touchstone for this is whether they believe infant mortality is ‘God’s will’ and we should all just shut up about it.

Boru

True, but some religious people try to control other people's personal lives.

Ofc, it's a virtue to care about others' wellbeing but (at least, I work that way) I can't respect a person if he does not respect me.

Some betas are against NoFap (I saw some dry incels/cucks who could not cope with that if you quit being a loser nothing bad would happen due which went to absurd ways to cope such comparing productive and safe thing  like NoFap with unproductive and dangerous stuff like pro-, anorex aka false equivalence) since that's not masculine its dull and cringe (teen alike) to shoot loads to pixels. And like, for me (a straight dom dude), it's a lame act.

I prefer to bang a sexy chick, not giving myself a hand (its waste of time and energy and while life is the longest thing we all have its still one). NoFap & casual sex & gym are ftw!

(January 31, 2025 at 5:11 am)AtheismSigma Wrote: True, but some religious people try to control other people's personal lives.

Ofc, it's a virtue to care about others' wellbeing but (at least, I work that way) I can't respect a person if he does not respect me.

Some betas are against NoFap (I saw some dry incels/cucks who could not cope with that if you quit being a loser nothing bad would happen due which went to absurd ways to cope such comparing productive and safe thing  like NoFap with unproductive and dangerous stuff like pro-, anorex aka false equivalence) since that's not masculine its dull and cringe (teen alike) to shoot loads to pixels. And like, for me (a straight dom dude), it's a lame act.

I prefer to bang a sexy chick, not giving myself a hand (its waste of time and energy and while life is the longest thing we all have its still one). NoFap & casual sex & gym are ftw!

Well, everybody likes different things. As long as nobody's getting hurt or coerced, I hope they all have a good time.

I am glad that I grew up before porn became as freely and easily available as it is now. I mean, you could see it, but there wasn't an infinite amount available 24/7 on a screen in your pocket. I suspect there are quite a few young people who get hooked, and then get a distorted idea about what sex is like. It would be unfortunate if they ended up without the real thing because the videos are so easy.