Anthropomorphizing
June 3, 2025 at 6:53 pm
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2025 at 7:01 pm by Alan V.)
Is energy really God? This is a continuation of a previous discussion.
Many animals display the signatures of consciousness, but they do not possess human-level consciousness obviously. So also obviously, consciousness is divisible and incremental rather than unitary. Even in humans it comes and goes, depending on changes to brain chemistry and activation.
Please read this post.
According to Merriam-Webster, "anthropomorphizing" is "to attribute human form or personality to things not human." That includes objects, animals, and forces of nature.
Energy is a force of nature, or actually several forces which emerged after the big bang.
To whom? Please be sure to collect your Nobel Prize if this is true.
From what I have read, energy may or may not be eternal. It may have been created in the big bang, with the positive energy of the various forces offset by the negative energy of gravity. Some physicists think that the universe is the ultimate free lunch. I understand some of the concepts in physics enough to leave cosmology to the professionals, who understand the math involved.
The energy-concept does possess other attributes often attributed to God. However, I think it actually robs those attributes from the God-concept because, again obviously, no two things can possess all power.
You still have to demonstrate that energy is conscious and willful. Asserting it is not enough. That's the key point.
Plus, if energy was created in the big bang, it was likely "caused" by a quantum fluctuation. According to cosmologists, the quantum vacuum has properties which might account for the big bang. In that sense, if that picture is correct, energy did not cause itself.
Quote:anthropomorphizing is attributing human characteristics to non-humans
do animals have consciousness? That is anthropomorphizing.
Many animals display the signatures of consciousness, but they do not possess human-level consciousness obviously. So also obviously, consciousness is divisible and incremental rather than unitary. Even in humans it comes and goes, depending on changes to brain chemistry and activation.
Please read this post.
According to Merriam-Webster, "anthropomorphizing" is "to attribute human form or personality to things not human." That includes objects, animals, and forces of nature.
Energy is a force of nature, or actually several forces which emerged after the big bang.
Quote:and by the way I am not merely "attributing", I am proving!
To whom? Please be sure to collect your Nobel Prize if this is true.
Quote:So, you agree that energy is eternal, omnipresent, and omnipotent?
From what I have read, energy may or may not be eternal. It may have been created in the big bang, with the positive energy of the various forces offset by the negative energy of gravity. Some physicists think that the universe is the ultimate free lunch. I understand some of the concepts in physics enough to leave cosmology to the professionals, who understand the math involved.
The energy-concept does possess other attributes often attributed to God. However, I think it actually robs those attributes from the God-concept because, again obviously, no two things can possess all power.
Quote:I equated self-causal with self-deterministic and self-determinism with consciousness.
You still have to demonstrate that energy is conscious and willful. Asserting it is not enough. That's the key point.
Plus, if energy was created in the big bang, it was likely "caused" by a quantum fluctuation. According to cosmologists, the quantum vacuum has properties which might account for the big bang. In that sense, if that picture is correct, energy did not cause itself.
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